01-22-2007, 07:53 PM
Wow, I had no idea Quod. I have respect for your intelligence but I must say your tact leaves much to be desired.
Long before you were here, I had a series of posts on the fact that Nations sometimes get a bit too technical about resolutions. My thought was to see some of them for what they are; an effort to fix something that doesn't fully exist in RL. So sometimes I'll vote illogically in a case where the writing may be bad but the thought or point of the resolution I agree with.
Now in this case there's argueably another resolution already in place that backs it up and that's good. You make great points and mine are completely uncompelling. That being said, I'm stating my stance and not trying to convince anyone else or argue with your excellent points. I have my reasons and a disrespectful rant from you won't make me change my mind.
With regard to other regions I have my beliefs and continue to question the motives of those bent on repealing so many resolutions. Politics aside I personally believe it is easier to criticize than create and so it is a weak attempt to put initiatives through the UN vote process without actually having to create something.
You seem like a pretty methodical guy (especially considering the way you carved up my post even including a nice little rant directed at our Delegate) so I challenge you to look at every repealed resolution and point out the new and improved resolution that has taken its place. In the instances where there hasn't been one, my IC contention is that poor guidance is now replaced by no guidance, which to me is sad, especially in a place where we're supposed to have more respect for each other than in RL. And while we're on the subject of respect, I don't know Hersfold but I figure if he's someone GS knows, we should at least respect another player and not reduce the debate to judgements and name calling.
In response to your comment on repeals being the majority will, everyone here knows that you can manipulate the majority through the writing on a repeal and also through the lie that a better replacement is in progress.
Again, I fully admitted that I'm being illogical. Maybe that's what vexes you so much??? After all, I am the Federation of Disjunction so I guess I reserve that right. I'm sure I don't have to point out that my Nation name is in direct opposition to itself.
I applaud your efforts but not your tactics Quod. You're trying to make a good point here and we're leaning another way. In the case of the Region, the majority will has spoken. What's going on here is the same as what happens in RL. There are external friendships at stake. There are internal friendships at stake. We want to try to support each other as much as possible. Sometimes that means picking your battles. Is this repeal that important to you? I would suggest that approaching it as an influencer in addition to using your intellect would have gotten you further. Something about honey VS. vinegar?
I look forward to healthy debate on Resolutions, not repeals. And yes, I do leave open the possibility that I will vote for a repeal (there I go again being hypocritical) but for now, I'd like to see some replacement resolutions before I go turning the current group of resolutions into swiss cheese.
Long before you were here, I had a series of posts on the fact that Nations sometimes get a bit too technical about resolutions. My thought was to see some of them for what they are; an effort to fix something that doesn't fully exist in RL. So sometimes I'll vote illogically in a case where the writing may be bad but the thought or point of the resolution I agree with.
Now in this case there's argueably another resolution already in place that backs it up and that's good. You make great points and mine are completely uncompelling. That being said, I'm stating my stance and not trying to convince anyone else or argue with your excellent points. I have my reasons and a disrespectful rant from you won't make me change my mind.
With regard to other regions I have my beliefs and continue to question the motives of those bent on repealing so many resolutions. Politics aside I personally believe it is easier to criticize than create and so it is a weak attempt to put initiatives through the UN vote process without actually having to create something.
You seem like a pretty methodical guy (especially considering the way you carved up my post even including a nice little rant directed at our Delegate) so I challenge you to look at every repealed resolution and point out the new and improved resolution that has taken its place. In the instances where there hasn't been one, my IC contention is that poor guidance is now replaced by no guidance, which to me is sad, especially in a place where we're supposed to have more respect for each other than in RL. And while we're on the subject of respect, I don't know Hersfold but I figure if he's someone GS knows, we should at least respect another player and not reduce the debate to judgements and name calling.
In response to your comment on repeals being the majority will, everyone here knows that you can manipulate the majority through the writing on a repeal and also through the lie that a better replacement is in progress.
Again, I fully admitted that I'm being illogical. Maybe that's what vexes you so much??? After all, I am the Federation of Disjunction so I guess I reserve that right. I'm sure I don't have to point out that my Nation name is in direct opposition to itself.
I applaud your efforts but not your tactics Quod. You're trying to make a good point here and we're leaning another way. In the case of the Region, the majority will has spoken. What's going on here is the same as what happens in RL. There are external friendships at stake. There are internal friendships at stake. We want to try to support each other as much as possible. Sometimes that means picking your battles. Is this repeal that important to you? I would suggest that approaching it as an influencer in addition to using your intellect would have gotten you further. Something about honey VS. vinegar?
I look forward to healthy debate on Resolutions, not repeals. And yes, I do leave open the possibility that I will vote for a repeal (there I go again being hypocritical) but for now, I'd like to see some replacement resolutions before I go turning the current group of resolutions into swiss cheese.