[Yeldan IDU Territory]

This is something that we've been working on at GTT. It was posted on jolt some time ago and I ran it through the proposal list a couple of times. Some of you may remember it.
Quote: Believing that the benefits of the peaceful application of nuclear technology should be available to all UN nations and convinced that all UN nations are entitled to participate in the exchange of scientific information for the further development of atomic energy for peaceful purposes,

Disturbed by the possibility of widespread devastation that could occur as the result of a nuclear war and determined to reduce the danger of such a war,

Believing that the proliferation of nuclear weapons increases the danger of nuclear war,

Alarmed at the potential threat posed to international security by the acquisition of nuclear weaponry by rogue states,

Defining a nuclear weapon as a weapon that relies on nuclear fusion or fission for its destructive effect. Excluded from this definition shall be any integrated guidance, safety and security systems, or any other peripheral system not directly related to the explosive payload itself, or its detonation device(s).

The General Assembly of the United Nations hereby enacts the following:

ARTICLE I: All UN member nations shall refrain from:
(1): The transfer to any nation, of nuclear weapons or control over such weapons directly, or indirectly.
(2): The transfer from any nation, of nuclear weapons or control over such weapons directly, or indirectly.
(3): Assisting or inducing any nation to manufacture or otherwise acquire nuclear weapons or control over such weapons.
(4): Seeking or receiving any assistance in the manufacture of nuclear weapons.

ARTICLE II: Nothing in this legislation shall be interpreted as affecting the right of all UN nations to develop nuclear arms using their own technology and manufacturing capabilities.

ARTICLE III: Nothing in this legislation shall be interpreted as affecting the right of all UN nations to share technology related to safety and security systems, guidance systems, delivery systems or any other peripheral systems not directly related to the design or manufacture of the nuclear weapon itself, provided such activities are in conformity with article I of this legislation.

ARTICLE IV: Nothing in this legislation shall be interpreted as affecting the right of all UN nations to research, produce and use nuclear energy for peaceful purposes, or their participation in the exchange of equipment, materials and scientific and technological information for peaceful purposes, provided such activities are in conformity with article I of this legislation.[/quote]

[Yeldan IDU Territory]

Quote: Believing that the benefits of the peaceful application of nuclear technology should be available to all UN nations and convinced that all UN nations are entitled to participate in the exchange of scientific information for the further development of atomic energy for peaceful purposes,

Disturbed by the possibility of widespread devastation that could occur as the result of a nuclear war and determined to reduce the danger of such a war,

Believing that the proliferation of nuclear weapons increases the danger of nuclear war,

Alarmed at the potential threat posed to international security by the acquisition of nuclear weaponry by rogue states,

Defining a nuclear weapon as a weapon that relies on nuclear fusion or fission for its destructive effect. Excluded from this definition shall be any integrated guidance, safety and security systems, or any other peripheral system not directly related to the explosive payload itself, or its detonation device(s).

The General Assembly of the United Nations hereby enacts the following:

ARTICLE I. UN member nations shall not:
(1) Directly or indirectly transfer control or ownership of nuclear weapons to or from any nation.
(2) Assist or induce any nation to manufacture or otherwise acquire nuclear weapons or control over such weapons.
(3) Seek or receive any assistance in the manufacture of nuclear weapons.

ARTICLE II: Nothing in this legislation shall be interpreted as affecting the right of all UN nations to develop nuclear arms using their own technology and manufacturing capabilities.

ARTICLE III: Nothing in this legislation shall be interpreted as affecting the right of all UN nations to share technology related to safety and security systems, guidance systems, delivery systems or any other peripheral systems not directly related to the design or manufacture of the nuclear weapon itself, provided such activities are in conformity with article I of this legislation.

ARTICLE IV: Nothing in this legislation shall be interpreted as affecting the right of all UN nations to research, produce and use nuclear energy for peaceful purposes, or their participation in the exchange of equipment, materials and scientific and technological information for peaceful purposes, provided such activities are in conformity with article I of this legislation.[/quote]
Updated, with changes to Article I suggested by Ausserland, Kenny and Ceorana at the Reclamation board.
28 Feb. - Updated Article I (1)

[Groot Gouda]

So, basically, what this does is say "build your own nukes, but don't help others doing so"?

[Fonzoland]

Yep.

[Groot Gouda]

Nice, I may even support it, but it doesn't go far enough. Unfortunately, I fear my pacifist agenda is not one pursued by a majority of UN nations

[Fonzoland]

Well, there are a few thingies called Nuclear Armaments and UNSA still in place. This is probably as far as you can go without a repeal.

[Eisophca]

FonzolandFeb 25 2006, 05:28 PM Well, there are a few thingies called Nuclear Armaments and UNSA still in place. This is probably as far as you can go without a repeal. [/quote]
You can go a bit farther, although I doubt it would pass. Technically, you could ban the use of nuclear weapons (unless that would fall under banning war...?) and restrict the number of nuclear weapons allowed per nation to 2.

[Fonzoland]

Actually, there was (is?) something in the queue that looked interesting, banning first strike.

[Eisophca]

It's still in there, expiring tonight.

I think it's actually not bad.
Quote: No First Use of Nukes Pledge

A resolution to slash worldwide military spending.


Category: Global Disarmament


Strength: Significant


Proposed by: Kurmudgia

Description: ACKNOWLEDGING: That UN Resolution 109 permits member states to possess Nuclear Weapons for purposes of defence

RECOGNIZING: That the only effective and sane use of such weapons is for deterrence.

LET IT THEREFORE BE ENACTED: That all UN member-states pledge never to use nuclear weapons against any other state except as retaliation for a prior nuclear strike.

Approvals: 22 (Firebert, Vergennes, Bane Maul, Ville Marie, Andromeda Islands, Ronrovia, NSHS, Ritonas, Deadparrotts, Arendias, Atlanas Fort, Desert Storm Iraq, Inflatable Furniture, Logsta, Kwaq land, Lindlandistan, NANX, Reasonable Prudence, Stufu, Tierra de Soad, Agramerland, Benfinan)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 102 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Sat Feb 25 2006 [/quote]

[Yeldan IDU Territory]

Groot GoudaFeb 25 2006, 06:13 PMNice, I may even support it, but it doesn't go far enough. Unfortunately, I fear my pacifist agenda is not one pursued by a majority of UN nations [/quote]
I think it goes about as far as it can and still be expected to pass. I'd like to see a limited test ban, leading to a complete test ban. I'd also like to see a maximum yield limit. Those are things for future resolutions though.

[Jonquiere-Tadoussac]

(This has nothing to do with the Nonproliferation resolution we are discussing, but the First strike one says "The only effective and sane use of such weapons is for defence." Sane? I dunno about that.)

I must agree that this proposal is extremely weak, and could effectively accomplish nothing, as it doesn't ban snew tates from building weapons, nor the transfer of "peaceful" technology, which can be adapted into weapons technology. If the real goal is to use this as a launchpad for new resolutions, though, I can see this as a good start.

I do hope it would pass. This is the type of thing the UN should be doing.

[Antrium]

If you think it could be improved, send them a telegram and tell them to come here, so we can help them edit it

[Lawtonia]

Has anyone considered the possiblility of non-nation enitites getting their hands on nuclear weapons. This is the one of the reasons the US doesn't not want nations like Iran and Nth Korea to possess these weapons - they may be tempted to sell them to extremist or criminal organisations.

[Yeldan IDU Territory]

LawtoniaFeb 26 2006, 03:30 PMHas anyone considered the possiblility of non-nation enitites getting their hands on nuclear weapons.  This is the one of the reasons the US doesn't not want nations like Iran and Nth Korea to possess these weapons - they may be tempted to sell them to extremist or criminal organisations.[/quote]
That's one of the issues addressed by the The Nuclear Terrorism Act.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7...16&postcount=76

I like the NTA, but I wish PC had used PROHIBITS in clause 2 like in clause 1.

[Jonquiere-Tadoussac]

FranxicoFeb 26 2006, 04:11 PM That's one of the issues addressed by the The Nuclear Terrorism Act.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7...16&postcount=76

I like the NTA, but I wish PC had used PROHIBITS in clause 2 like in clause 1. [/quote]
Still, will everyone recognize that these provisions already exist? Would it not be worth adding a clause prohibiting transfer of such weapons to extranational entities, even if it is slightly redundant?

[Yeldan IDU Territory]

Jonquiere-TadoussacFeb 27 2006, 11:01 AMStill, will everyone recognize that these provisions already exist?  Would it not be worth adding a clause prohibiting transfer of such weapons to extranational entities, even if it is slightly redundant?[/quote]
Thanks for the suggestion, but yes, it would be redundant and someone would surely point out that it duplicates part of the Nuclear Terrorism Act.

[Yeldan IDU Territory]

Franxico has applied for UN membership and will be submitting this (assuming I can get 2 endorsements from you guys. Please? ).

[Yeldan IDU Territory]

If there are no further comments, suggestions or objections I will be submitting this tomorrow with a full TG campaign.

Here is the current text:
Quote: Believing that the benefits of the peaceful application of nuclear technology should be available to all UN nations and convinced that all UN nations are entitled to participate in the exchange of scientific information for the further development of atomic energy for peaceful purposes,

Disturbed by the possibility of widespread devastation that could occur as the result of a nuclear war and determined to reduce the danger of such a war,

Believing that the proliferation of nuclear weapons increases the danger of nuclear war,

Alarmed at the potential threat posed to international security by the acquisition of nuclear weaponry by rogue states,

Defining a nuclear weapon as a weapon that relies on nuclear fusion or fission for its destructive effect. Excluded from this definition shall be any integrated guidance, safety and security systems, or any other peripheral system not directly related to the explosive payload itself, or its detonation device(s).

The General Assembly of the United Nations hereby enacts the following:

ARTICLE I. UN member nations shall not:
(1) Directly or indirectly transfer control or ownership of nuclear weapons to or from any nation.
(2) Assist or induce any nation to manufacture or otherwise acquire nuclear weapons or control over such weapons.
(3) Seek or receive any assistance in the manufacture of nuclear weapons, other than for the purpose of improving the safety of the weapon.

ARTICLE II: Nothing in this legislation shall be interpreted as affecting the right of all UN nations to develop nuclear arms using their own technology and manufacturing capabilities.

ARTICLE III: Nothing in this legislation shall be interpreted as affecting the right of all UN nations to share technology related to safety and security systems, guidance systems, delivery systems or any other peripheral systems not directly related to the design or manufacture of the nuclear weapon itself, provided such activities are in conformity with article I of this legislation.

ARTICLE IV: Nothing in this legislation shall be interpreted as affecting the right of all UN nations to research, produce and use nuclear energy for peaceful purposes, or their participation in the exchange of equipment, materials and scientific and technological information for peaceful purposes, provided such activities are in conformity with article I of this legislation.[/quote]

I'm submitting this as a member of this region, so it will count as an "IDU resolution" should it pass. I'd be interested in hearing any additional input any of the membership has on this.

[Eisophca]

Looks good.

[Sausage Arabia]

I'm still bothered by 1 c).

Nation A is going to build a nuclear weapon. They proudly show their work to nation B. Nation B (experts in nuclear technology) realize: "Holy crap, if they carry on, they're going to glass their whole capital" (because the weapon is so poorly constructed). It is now illegal for nation B to point this out, however.

[Yeldan IDU Territory]

Neu HamsterdamMar 12 2006, 06:02 PMI'm still bothered by 1 c).

Nation A is going to build a nuclear weapon. They proudly show their work to nation B. Nation B (experts in nuclear technology) realize: "Holy crap, if they carry on, they're going to glass their whole capital" (because the weapon is so poorly constructed). It is now illegal for nation B to point this out, however.[/quote]
Oh I think they could "point it out", they just couldn't send a team there to help them build it. I see what you're saying though. Suggested rewording?

[Sausage Arabia]

As I understand it, the rationale for this being like this is that nations can still build larger nuclear weapons, if they collaborated, which is undesirable. You specifically ruled out safety/guidance systems. So why not, in 1 c), either merely ban collaboration for the purposes of increasing the destructive capacity of the weaponry, or specifically allow collaboration for the purpose of improving the safety of the weapon.

[Yeldan IDU Territory]

How about:
Quote: (3) Seek or receive any assistance in the manufacture of nuclear weapons, other than for the purpose of improving the safety of the weapon.[/quote]

[Yeldan IDU Territory]

III already states that they can collaborate on safety systems, but this will make it clearer.

[Sausage Arabia]

That would be fine by me; can I suggest you bump the NSO thread (particularly so Auss and Cluich, who know more about this than I, get a look).