(Joint post with [nation]Lauchenoiria[/nation])
While the vigorous discussion was taking place between Greenwood and the rest of the Kerlian delegation, Texōccoatl waited quietly and patiently at a distance with Huacue, the Necatli leader. “They seem to be quite cross,” Huacue said. “They just got out of a meeting with Calhualyana, can you blame them?” Texōccoatl replied with a slight laugh.
When the Kerlians had resumed a calmer demeanor, Texōccoatl and Huacue finally approached. “Good morning,” Texōccoatl said politely. “We’re pleased to see you’ve made it to the talks. Would you have a moment to meet with us as well?”
"Of course," Councillor Georgiou smiled, "I'm afraid my colleague Councillor Greenwood has returned to our hotel, we shall have to meet without her. The three of us here - four, sorry - would be happy to speak with you."
Texōccoatl smiled warmly in response. “I don’t believe we’ve had a chance to introduce my colleague here. This is Huacue, leader of the Necatli people and a member of our Assembly.” Huacue nodded respectfully to the Kerlians, before Texōccoatl led everyone to another conference room. When they arrived, Yauhmi stood up and warmly greeted the Kerlians. When it came time to greet Finlay Hale, Yauhmi paused. “I don’t believe we’ve met,” she said, surprised to see a male Kerlian in the delegation but doing a good job of hiding it.
"My name is Finlay Hale, I'm Councillor Jennifer Hale's cousin and her appointed representative to this delegation."
The two remaining Councillors, alongside Katrine Porter, remained silent this time, rather than offering an explanation. Georgiou, in particular, was curious to see how Yauhmi would react to the presence of a male Kerlian. Few foreigners had met a male Kerlian, and even fewer had been able to speak to one.
Having no particular issue with men that weren’t overthrowing her, throwing her in prison or trying to kill her, Yauhmi had no issue with Finlay Hale after she got past her initial surprise at his presence. “I see, I am pleased to meet you, sir,” Yauhmi said politely. “Is this your first opportunity to travel outside Kerlile?”
"It is," he nodded. "My cousin has been most gracious, she rescued me after I was accused of anti-matriarchal activity. She has given me many opportunities I wouldn't otherwise have had, and it is my hope that I can help improve the opportunities for others as a result."
Pierre and Georgiou exchanged a glance at this. Neither were entirely sure what Finlay's motivations were, but expressing a desire for reform in a meeting with someone who was associated with trying to reform her own country could be beneficial.
"That is always a laudable hope,” Yauhmi said, smiling. “I am hoping to accomplish much the same thing, actually,” she added as everyone sat down. “That’s why I’m glad to have a chance to speak with you all before we go into the talks. I thought it would be a good idea for us to touch base on where we stand on the issues.”
"We are happy to do so," Georgiou took the lead, as they'd agreed after Letitia's swift and angry departure. "It is important that this goes smoothly and we end up with an agreement that all parties can follow without undue stress. Our own priorities are the opening of trade in the area again, and an end to the fighting. For full disclosure, we intend to withdraw our troops regardless of the outcome. We do not have the resources for a prolonged military campaign."
Yauhmi and Texōccoatl exchanged a brief look, before Yauhmi nodded. “I believe that is the stance of all of the delegations present, really. Our preference would be to go in and drag Calhualyana out of the Palace of Flowers by her hair, but we understand that is not....possible at the moment,” Yauhmi said. “We have been discussing the issue of the Canal with other delegations, and while we would also prefer that it be given over to us, we are prepared to make concessions there to designate it an international zone with profits to be shared between both sides.”
"We would have no issues with that plan for the Canal," Porter answered after a nod from Georgiou. "Provided there were sufficient measures to prevent conflict breaking out once more in the zone. The present situation is extremely disruptive to trade. We are informed that the Xiomerans are... reluctant to cede control of the Canal, however."
"Calhualyana will agree for two reasons in the end: because the rest of the world is demanding it and she has no choice really....but also I am sure these talks will offer her enough to save face and pull away from some of her more outrageous demands,” Texōccoatl said. “So we are not quite as worried about that part of things. We are more concerned with gaining international recognition for Huenya, and gaining support for our position that we are the only legitimate government over all of Huenya.”
“We also have to determine what happens to prisoners of war, and make sure some measures are put in place to limit Calhualyana’s power and her ambitions. And, also, to limit Xiomeran military power,” Huacue added.
"International recognition for Huenya is an important goal," Georgiou nodded carefully. "And one I believe will be relatively easy to achieve. The issue of prisoners of war is also a matter that is of great importance, as my colleague Councillor Greenwood would have spoken to if she was present. On the matter of Xiomeran military power, is their capacity not greatly diminished already by what has occurred?"
"Their capacity is diminished.....but they still retain a considerable military capability,” Huacue said. “This remains a concern for us.”
“Placing hard limits on their military will likely lead to a backlash, though. We will probably have to focus on defensive alliances as a way of keeping Calhualyana’s ambitions in check,” Texōccoatl added.
“This brings me to an important question,” Yauhmi said. “We know that Kerlile is not in a position to be too aggressive when it comes to this situation, but we were hoping that we could come to an agreement to strengthen ties between our respective states as a further way to rein in Calhualyana.”
The two Councillors exchanged glances, then looked to Katrine Porter, who avoided their eyes. Finlay Hale bit his lip. The Matriarchy was hoping to return to a place of neutrality, but this would make that rather difficult. For the Council still owed Yauhmi, in their eyes, for the trade and for the Aurora matter. Finally, Pierre was the one to speak.
"What sort of agreement do you propose?" she asked, slowly.
"Mainly, a resumption of our previous understandings as far as trade and mutual defense. A return to the status quo we enjoyed prior to the coup and the civil war, only between Kerlile and Huenya at this point,” Yauhmi replied. She had noted the hesitation from the Kerlians and was slightly confused.
"We are perfectly willing to return to our mutual trade agreements. The matter of defence is more... complicated," Pierre said reluctantly. "We do not know what the outcome of these discussions will be. Your intention is to push a claim to all the land on the island of Huenya, on both sides of the Canal, no? If so, that will put you directly at odds with the existence of the state of Xiomera."
"What my colleague is meaning," Georgiou added, "is that conflicting territorial claims often lead to a state of long-term war, meaning a mutual defence agreement would cause us to have to commit military forces at a time when, both politically and economically speaking, that would be incredibly challenging."
"It is, fundamentally, our position that the ‘state of Xiomera’ no longer exists or has any legitimacy,” Huacue said before Yauhmi could respond. “We are simply asking you to de-recognize an illegitimate state and government and recognize the legitimate one - us.”
Yauhmi had been at a bit of a loss when Pierre and Georgiou had dithered on the idea of re-establishing the military alliance with Huenya. But when Huacue intervened, Yauhmi spoke up quickly, lest the Kerlians get the impression that a man on her side was trying to tell them what to do. “We understand that this is a difficult situation for you to be placed in, though. We can renew trade relations and perhaps re-visit defense arrangements at a more opportune time,” Yauhmi said.
While she hid it well, Yauhmi was disappointed in the response. She had been hoping that, for most nations, it would be a straightforward matter to decline to recognize Calhualyana’s illegitimate government. She was seeing now that the issue would be far more complicated than she had hoped.
"There are still threats to our nation," Finlay Hale spoke up softly, and the three Kerlian women turned slowly to him in disbelief. "And to yours, Yauhmi. Trusting Calhualyana would be a mistake, we should consider what Huacue says."
"A male agrees with a male," Katrine Porter sneered, adding sarcastically: "Someone call the press in here, this is sure to make headlines."
"My apologies, Yauhmi, Councillor Hale's representative is not familiar with the workings of international relations," Georgiou turned to the Huenyan delegation, a spark of fury in her eyes, directed at her own delegation. "She was advised to choose a more experienced representative, but alas her decision was made. I understand you may be disappointed in our words, but I can attempt to explain. How familiar are you with Council decision-making procedures?"
"Probably not as familiar as I should be,” Yauhmi admitted. “Please elaborate for me.”
"There are ten Council families, each entitled to a representative on the Council. The eldest daughter of the eldest daughter, a standard progression similar to any hereditary system, but excluding males. The only case where the eldest is not the Councillor is in the event of the incapacity or incarceration of the individual who would rightfully hold the position, as we saw in the case of Anita Patel, who was succeeded by her daughter when she was imprisoned in Sanctaria."
Georgiou stopped to take a quick sip of water. "The President is selected from among Councillors and succeeded by her heir on the Council. She has veto powers over the Parliament, but the Council has veto powers over her - collectively speaking. The Council is chaired by the longest-serving Councillor, presently Lia Chiu. And therein lies our problem. We cannot approve a defence agreement if the Chair refuses to ever allow a debate to reach the floor."
"I see. And Councillor Chiu has.....concerns about such an agreement?”
"One of Chiu's relatives is in Calhualyana's custody," Georgiou replied. "If word gets out that we are going to form such an agreement..."
"I see your point,” Yauhmi said after a pause. “Given the situation, then, I think it is reasonable for us to withdraw our request concerning defense agreements for now.”
Huacue looked slightly frustrated, but said nothing. Texōccoatl nodded in agreement with Yauhmi.
“On the other points, then, I believe we are in agreement....” Yauhmi said, only for Huacue to interrupt again. “With respect, Yauhmi, I don’t think we have complete clarity here. Will Kerlile recognize Calhualyana’s government and maintain relations with it?”
Pierre and Georgiou shared a grim glance. The attempt to shift the discussion to the future, and the responsibility to the absent Councillor Chiu, had failed. It seemed that Huacue was unlike the politicians from established democracies who knew how to take a hint. An answer would have to be given. The two Councillors looked at Katrine Porter, who swallowed nervously.
"Our intention is to wait and see the will of the Xiomeran people, and if it is to remain a separate state, thus recognise Calhualyana's government and the state of Xiomera," Porter answered reluctantly and braced herself for a response.
Once the fact was out in the open, silence descended on the room. Finally, Yauhmi chuckled weakly. “I suppose that means we will just have to make sure Calhualyana loses her elections,” she said, her voice trying to convey a sense of humor. Huacue simply snorted in response, his vocal expression of disdain conveying his opinion on the matter. After a moment, Texōccoatl simply nodded. “We certainly hope that the vote will not go that way - and that Calhualyana actually allows a fair vote to take place. We understand your position, it is hard to determine which direction to go when the situation on the ground is still so unsettled. If Kerlile continues to maintain a relationship with us, we will be content with that.”
Georgiou and Porter looked down, avoiding Yauhmi's gaze. Councillor Pierre looked away fully, embarrassed. As a member of the family who funded the Aurora Programme, Pierre knew she would be forever indebted to Yauhmi, and this was uncomfortable for her. She didn't dislike Calhualyana, and this is what they wanted, but to Pierre the present situation felt wrong somehow.
"We dearly wish for a good relationship between Kerlile and Huenya," Finlay Hale said, filling the gap. "We have much in common, such as the desire to seek a path of reform. But in other ways we are very different: in Kerlile, it will become that much harder to continue the reformist path if we become embroiled in a foreign conflict. We don't know what the future will bring, and we will keep watching. If Calhualyana has lied to us, tricked us, we will react. After 2018, we are naturally risk-averse, but don't lose hope over us, Cihuātlahtoāni Yauhmi. You have given hope to so many, you deserve to feel it in return."
The three Kerlian women once again turned to stare at Finlay. This time, after a moment, Georgiou nodded, followed by Porter and Pierre.
After a moment of her own, Yauhmi nodded. “Thank you, Mr. Hale,” she said with genuine respect in her voice. “If you’re an example of where Kerlile may be heading....it’s definitely too soon for us to give up on each other.”
She nodded again, as if a decision had been made. “I do thank all of you for supporting us up to now, and look forward to working with you in the future. Now, we just have to get through these talks. Is there anything else you would like to discuss or clarify with us?”
"I need to give you this," Pierre produced another envelope and handed it to Yauhmi. "For your eyes only, for later."
"I am not privy to the contents of Councillor Pierre's letter," Georgiou said, "but for my part, we have mentioned all that was necessary to mention. We hope for a conclusion at these talks which is beneficial to all."
"We hope so as well,” Yauhmi said, standing up. “We look forward to seeing you in the main discussion here, and working with you moving forward.”
After the Kerlian delegation had left, Yauhmi looked at the envelope she had been given by Pierre. She wondered what was inside, and if it would be good news for once.
"Finlay..." Georgiou said after they'd left the room. "Good job."
It was the highest praise a male Kerlian had received from a Councillor of Kerlile in decades.
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