[Grosseschnauzer]

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Adoption and IVF Rights

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Human Rights

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: Love and esterel

Description: The United Nations,

OBSERVING that
-A- Adoptions and births from IVF, in the same manner as natural births, contribute to the happiness of many adults and children, worldwide

REGRETTING that in some Nations:
-B- Same sex couples and non married couples are discriminated against, for they are not allowed to adopt children
-C- Couples cannot adopt children from a different nation, even if these couples respect the standards defined by the nation of which the child is resident
-D- Adoption is sometimes a front for the selling of a child for money

-E- IVF (In-Vitro fertilization) is forbidden

MANDATES all nations to allow:
-1- Same sex couples and non married couples to adopt children with the same standard that opposite-sex and married couples are held to.
Nations will be permitted to allow Biological Parents to indicate their preference of the adoptive parents' religion, marital status and/or sexual preference before signing their parental rights away. This shall only apply in the case, both the child was willingly given away by parents but not purposely abandoned

-2- Opposite-sex and same-sex couples, regardless of marital status, from other UN countries shall be allowed to adopt children if these couples meet the standards defined by the nation of which the child is initially residing in.
Nations will be permitted to give priority of adoption to a local couple over a non-local couple

URGES that in all nations:
-3- Only nationally accredited adoption organizations can conduct the adoption procedure; and
-4- Adoptive parents be forbidden to give money to this adoption organizations, to any person working in or related to this association, to the biological parents and to people related to the biological parents; adoptive parents are welcome to donate money to any adoption organizations that they did not use and are not attempting to use to adopt children

ENCOURAGES
-5- Scientific stem cell research in order that, in the future, sterile men and women can have gametes (spermatozoon and ovum) with their own genetic identity, these gametes being harvested from their own stem cells,

URGES:
-6- All UN Nations to allow IVF, whether the gametes concerned were naturally produced or produced in the way defined in paragraph [5]

Thanks to all Nations that helped edit and improve this proposal in the UN forum

Voting Ends: Mon Sep 12 2005 [/quote]

[Groot Gouda]

The republic will vote against. Our reasons:

- redundancy (mostly duplication of earlier resolutions)
- irrelevant issues such as IVF and stem cell research
- Lying

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Quote: REGRETTING that in some Nations:
-B- Same sex couples and non married couples are discriminated against, for they are not allowed to adopt children[/quote]

This is outlawed by earlier resolutions, so not an argument. By including this in the resolution the author is either lying or shows no sign of studying past legislation before submitting their resolution. Something which I suspect this author does.

[Antrium]

Antrium is also against, for basically the same reasons as Groot Gouda.

[Lloegr-Cymru]

The Holy Republic also echoes the comments of the Delegate from Groot Gouda.

[Lawtonia]

Lawtonia believes that this issue has been dealt with by previous resolutions and anything not covered by previous resolutions can be dealt with by national laws. Lawtonia will be voting no.

[Baranxtu]

The Most Serene Republic also votes "no" on aforementioned grounds.

The resolution is unnecessary, as the main topics have already been dealt with to great extent.

[Grosseschnauzer]

One reason why Sober Thought and I had arranged things so that Grosseschnauzer was shown at NS as the delegate was to assure that the region's votes were cast by the delegate.

I haven't been able to figure out who in the past few days, but one or more of the UN nations in our region has compromised the arrangement that was already in place by changing their endorsements so that while ST is shown at NS as the delegate of record, in view of his extremely limited ability for net access, the region will again be unable to cast its votes, or be able to deal with any possible threats to the region.

Someone ought to be ashamed of themselves. The plans that ST had to cover this contigency were disclosed and discussed during the campaign, and neither ST nor I heard any objection to the arrangement. ST and I had things set up in a way so that between the two of us alone, the formal delegacy could be returned when he wanted it to.

Given that it is almost Monday already on GMT time, it is now unlikely that the region's votes will be cast on this resolution.

[Groot Gouda]

GrosseschnauzerSep 11 2005, 08:06 PM I haven't been able to figure out who in the past few days, but one or more of the UN nations in our region has compromised the arrangement that was already in place by changing their endorsements so that while ST is shown at NS as the delegate of record, in view of his extremely limited ability for net access, the region will again be unable to cast its votes, or be able to deal with any possible threats to the region.

Someone ought to be ashamed of themselves. [/quote]
Well, let's shortlist:

Sober Thought's last three endorsements: Amidonia, Somertonia, Metroplia
Grosseschnauzer's: Amidonia, Somertonia, Metroplia

Fair chance that Metroplia was a bit confused about the endorsing, so a friendly TG might be helpfull to clear things up.

[Keeslandia]

Keeslandia votes "nay" and will unendorse ST to attempt to rectify the situation.

[Grosseschnauzer]

Thanks, Keeslandia. If there is time between the next NS update and the end of the voting (and I'm awake to cast the vote) I'll get it in. I;m just not sure whether there will be enough of a time lag, as it's not possible for me to stay up all night to find out.

@GG: I sent a TG to Metroplia when I noticed the problem early yesterday as he had endorsed ST and not us. That still did not explain whY I had one fewer endorsement than ST at that point instead of one more as it was before the last couple of days. Metroplia gave us an endorsement, but it put ST and us in a tie.

ST and I had noticed the tie a week or so ago, and that is when we decided I should withdraw my endorsement of ST so we would become acting delegate. Somewhere someone else also withdrew an endorsement for us, or added one to ST (the former we think, is more likely). So looking at the last three endorsement still does not solve the mystery.

[Grosseschnauzer]

The update still hasn't taken place yet, and I've can't stay awake much longer tonight.

I've cast my national vote in the UN against the resolution, and I am assuming that if we are installed as the delegate by the update before the voting period ends, that the vote will count as the region's vote.

I will try and check at my earliest opporunity after I wake up. If the update has come, and I am able to, I will confirm the vote.

Hopefully, we can avoid this problem in the future.

[Grosseschnauzer]

Fortunately, the region's vote has been cast in time.

[Keeslandia]

Thanks for your dilegence.

[Domnonia]

Thank you.

Would it be okay to re-endorse Sober Thought now, or would laying off for a bit be a good idea?

[Grosseschnauzer]

Please lay off until either he or I let you know. There are already two other proposals in the resolution queue coming to a vote, and I'd hate to have to deal with this problem for each and every resolution vote.
Besides which, ST and I have agreed to endorse certain proposals being put in the queue, and if I can't endorse those, and he doesn't get online, then we can't help those particular proposals.