08-02-2005, 07:49 AM
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08-02-2005, 01:20 PM
The eastern part of Groot Gouda would like to fall under the Gouda Western Time zone.
Compliments on the map by the way. Looks good, and realistic. For myself, I compare Groot Gouda to China for size, and it seems to roughly match the timezoning as well
The only thing I'd prefer, without being jealous at Miervatia, is a more neutral name for the line. The IDU Standard or something. The zones can be named after major places, but the standard line should be something for all of us.
Compliments on the map by the way. Looks good, and realistic. For myself, I compare Groot Gouda to China for size, and it seems to roughly match the timezoning as well
The only thing I'd prefer, without being jealous at Miervatia, is a more neutral name for the line. The IDU Standard or something. The zones can be named after major places, but the standard line should be something for all of us.
08-02-2005, 03:24 PM
Good idea, Domnonia!
I must say, I haven't thought about time zones in Yuunli yet. I have to see whether the best choice is a national, provincial or local time zone system.
IRL, China is actually too huge to have a national time zone, while the USA has quite complicated time zone boundaries...
BTW: I'm against summer/daylight saving time.
I must say, I haven't thought about time zones in Yuunli yet. I have to see whether the best choice is a national, provincial or local time zone system.
IRL, China is actually too huge to have a national time zone, while the USA has quite complicated time zone boundaries...
BTW: I'm against summer/daylight saving time.
08-02-2005, 05:32 PM
YuunliAug 2 2005, 06:24 AM Good idea, Domnonia!
I must say, I haven't thought about time zones in Yuunli yet. I have to see whether the best choice is a national, provincial or local time zone system.
IRL, China is actually too huge to have a national time zone, while the USA has quite complicated time zone boundaries...
BTW: I'm against summer/daylight saving time. [/quote]
As an engineer who works with raw field data, Daylight Saving Time is horrid! Absolutely horrid! I'm rather ashamed that more of my community hasn't advocated against it.
No doubt that we'll modify the time boundaries as we add more to the map.
I'm rather honored that it is right now being named Miervatian Standard Time, but what if we do call it IDU Standard Time, but that it runs through the Merivatian Axis, given that the center of the IDU does actually fall remarkebly near my capital.
I must say, I haven't thought about time zones in Yuunli yet. I have to see whether the best choice is a national, provincial or local time zone system.
IRL, China is actually too huge to have a national time zone, while the USA has quite complicated time zone boundaries...
BTW: I'm against summer/daylight saving time. [/quote]
As an engineer who works with raw field data, Daylight Saving Time is horrid! Absolutely horrid! I'm rather ashamed that more of my community hasn't advocated against it.
No doubt that we'll modify the time boundaries as we add more to the map.
I'm rather honored that it is right now being named Miervatian Standard Time, but what if we do call it IDU Standard Time, but that it runs through the Merivatian Axis, given that the center of the IDU does actually fall remarkebly near my capital.
08-02-2005, 06:13 PM
Groot GoudaAug 2 2005, 11:20 AM Compliments on the map by the way. Looks good, and realistic. For myself, I compare Groot Gouda to China for size, and it seems to roughly match the timezoning as well
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Danke!
Quote: The only thing I'd prefer, without being jealous at Miervatia, is a more neutral name for the line. The IDU Standard or something. The zones can be named after major places, but the standard line should be something for all of us[/quote]
In RL we all live under the law that is is Greenwich Standard Time, so I thought it would be fitting to have something similar going on in the IDU. But, we could just rename it to IDU Standard Time while keeping the Miervatian Line and Axis a central feature, being as it is what divides the IDU Worlds Time Zones.
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Danke!
Quote: The only thing I'd prefer, without being jealous at Miervatia, is a more neutral name for the line. The IDU Standard or something. The zones can be named after major places, but the standard line should be something for all of us[/quote]
In RL we all live under the law that is is Greenwich Standard Time, so I thought it would be fitting to have something similar going on in the IDU. But, we could just rename it to IDU Standard Time while keeping the Miervatian Line and Axis a central feature, being as it is what divides the IDU Worlds Time Zones.
08-02-2005, 07:47 PM
DomnoniaAug 2 2005, 06:07 PM Groot GoudaAug 2 2005, 11:20 AM The eastern part of Groot Gouda would like to fall under the Gouda Western Time zone.
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Wha?
So, the Time Zone on the "East" end of your country is called the Gouda "Western" TimeZone [/quote]
nonono! Groot Gouda currently has 3 time zones; I want to have that reduced to three. As Gouda City is in the western part of the timezones, I decided to claim that zone by calling it the "Gouda Western Timezone". Technically, it's the middle zone. The Eastern part should be included in that zone. The western part has no name for it's timezone yet, so another nation can claim it.
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Wha?
So, the Time Zone on the "East" end of your country is called the Gouda "Western" TimeZone [/quote]
nonono! Groot Gouda currently has 3 time zones; I want to have that reduced to three. As Gouda City is in the western part of the timezones, I decided to claim that zone by calling it the "Gouda Western Timezone". Technically, it's the middle zone. The Eastern part should be included in that zone. The western part has no name for it's timezone yet, so another nation can claim it.
08-02-2005, 08:15 PM
The Republic of Yuunli has decided to adopt a standard time for the whole nation. Yuunli Time (YT) shall be exactly one hour behind IDU Standard Time.
Yuunli consists of two parts: Mich-Inzl (the big island in the north) and Chirachi (between Flankia and Datagenesis). Mich-Inzl is located between approximately 24? west and 2? west, Chirachi between approximately 19? west and 7? west.
The sun is at its highest point at the following times:
- Miervatian Line: 11:00 YT
- easternmost point of Mich-Inzl: 11:10 YT
- easternmost point of Chirachi: 11:20 YT
- Tenkas, national capital: 11:20 YT
- center of Chirachi: 11:45 YT
- center of Mich-Inzl: 12:00 YT
- westernmost point of Chirachi: 12:40 YT
- westernmost point of Mich-Inzl: 12:50 YT
Yuunli consists of two parts: Mich-Inzl (the big island in the north) and Chirachi (between Flankia and Datagenesis). Mich-Inzl is located between approximately 24? west and 2? west, Chirachi between approximately 19? west and 7? west.
The sun is at its highest point at the following times:
- Miervatian Line: 11:00 YT
- easternmost point of Mich-Inzl: 11:10 YT
- easternmost point of Chirachi: 11:20 YT
- Tenkas, national capital: 11:20 YT
- center of Chirachi: 11:45 YT
- center of Mich-Inzl: 12:00 YT
- westernmost point of Chirachi: 12:40 YT
- westernmost point of Mich-Inzl: 12:50 YT
08-02-2005, 08:17 PM
This was what is confuding me.
If I read this map correctly, it is dividing time zones in half-hour increments with seven degrees of longitude, right?
Under that scenario, the schnauzervolk nations cross over eight time zones; and two of those are just barely -- which will probably require time zone adjustments.
For the record, with the earlier map Domnonia posted of the schnauzervolk nations, the cities shown are where the international airports are located (international being outside the five schnauzervolk nations). The flatlands in the Schnauzer States and Schnauzer Homelands will be the "Lesser Ratter Plains" to go along with the "Great Ratter Plains" in Grosseschnauzer proper.
If I read this map correctly, it is dividing time zones in half-hour increments with seven degrees of longitude, right?
Under that scenario, the schnauzervolk nations cross over eight time zones; and two of those are just barely -- which will probably require time zone adjustments.
For the record, with the earlier map Domnonia posted of the schnauzervolk nations, the cities shown are where the international airports are located (international being outside the five schnauzervolk nations). The flatlands in the Schnauzer States and Schnauzer Homelands will be the "Lesser Ratter Plains" to go along with the "Great Ratter Plains" in Grosseschnauzer proper.
08-02-2005, 08:31 PM
I'm more than willing to retool nations Time Zones to their specific needs, so I can totally do that for yours Gross...and Yuunli aswell.
The subscript numbers are not Longitude, they merely divide the IDU World from Miervertia out by 700km. So, each Standard Time Zone is, on average, 700km wide.
The subscript numbers are not Longitude, they merely divide the IDU World from Miervertia out by 700km. So, each Standard Time Zone is, on average, 700km wide.
08-02-2005, 09:10 PM
YuunliAug 2 2005, 06:15 PM The Republic of Yuunli has decided to adopt a standard time for the whole nation. Yuunli Time (YT) shall be exactly one hour behind IDU Standard Time.
The sun is at its highest point at the following times:
- Miervatian Line: 11:00 YT
- easternmost point of Mich-Inzl: 11:10 YT
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Ok, just to get this straight.
If it is 12:00 in Miervatia according to IDU Standard, what time would it be in all of Yuunli.
I'm guessing 11:00?
The sun is at its highest point at the following times:
- Miervatian Line: 11:00 YT
- easternmost point of Mich-Inzl: 11:10 YT
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Ok, just to get this straight.
If it is 12:00 in Miervatia according to IDU Standard, what time would it be in all of Yuunli.
I'm guessing 11:00?
08-03-2005, 12:32 AM
Domnonia --
Thanks for the contribution as always. When the dust settles a bit, I'd like to make a half-hour time zone for North Island of ST (the northern part of Bristle Island, which is just west of the mainland IDU) since it's modelled on Nfld. We can call it NIT, and have double daylight savings time.
I haven't got around to making my provincial entry for the place modelled on Sask., but I'll seek your input when I get there.
Thanks for the contribution as always. When the dust settles a bit, I'd like to make a half-hour time zone for North Island of ST (the northern part of Bristle Island, which is just west of the mainland IDU) since it's modelled on Nfld. We can call it NIT, and have double daylight savings time.
I haven't got around to making my provincial entry for the place modelled on Sask., but I'll seek your input when I get there.
08-03-2005, 12:54 AM
GrosseschnauzerAug 2 2005, 11:17 AM This was what is confuding me.
If I read this map correctly, it is dividing time zones in half-hour increments with seven degrees of longitude, right?
Under that scenario, the schnauzervolk nations cross over eight time zones; and two of those are just barely -- which will probably require time zone adjustments.
For the record, with the earlier map Domnonia posted of the schnauzervolk nations, the cities shown are where the international airports are located (international being outside the five schnauzervolk nations). The flatlands in the Schnauzer States and Schnauzer Homelands will be the "Lesser Ratter Plains" to go along with the "Great Ratter Plains" in Grosseschnauzer proper. [/quote]
If you could retype the names and codes of your airports I'll add them to Wiki. If you later want to make an entry for a separate entry, Eule Fluglinen would love to have a daily dirigible (zeppelin) service to all IDU ports of call.
Please bear in mind, that travel by air into and over Mikitivity is limited to military or *slow* moving traffic, for safety reasons. (Eventually I'll be Wikifing the origin of the City States, but the short story is that a Silver Dragon named Silvarta placed a blessing / curse on the Thuvians leading to a national phobia about travel into and around certain mountain tops -- real or no, remains to be seen.)
If I read this map correctly, it is dividing time zones in half-hour increments with seven degrees of longitude, right?
Under that scenario, the schnauzervolk nations cross over eight time zones; and two of those are just barely -- which will probably require time zone adjustments.
For the record, with the earlier map Domnonia posted of the schnauzervolk nations, the cities shown are where the international airports are located (international being outside the five schnauzervolk nations). The flatlands in the Schnauzer States and Schnauzer Homelands will be the "Lesser Ratter Plains" to go along with the "Great Ratter Plains" in Grosseschnauzer proper. [/quote]
If you could retype the names and codes of your airports I'll add them to Wiki. If you later want to make an entry for a separate entry, Eule Fluglinen would love to have a daily dirigible (zeppelin) service to all IDU ports of call.
Please bear in mind, that travel by air into and over Mikitivity is limited to military or *slow* moving traffic, for safety reasons. (Eventually I'll be Wikifing the origin of the City States, but the short story is that a Silver Dragon named Silvarta placed a blessing / curse on the Thuvians leading to a national phobia about travel into and around certain mountain tops -- real or no, remains to be seen.)
08-03-2005, 08:09 AM
DomnoniaAug 2 2005, 09:10 PMYuunliAug 2 2005, 06:15 PM The Republic of Yuunli has decided to adopt a standard time for the whole nation. Yuunli Time (YT) shall be exactly one hour behind IDU Standard Time.
The sun is at its highest point at the following times:
- Miervatian Line: 11:00 YT
- easternmost point of Mich-Inzl: 11:10 YT
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Ok, just to get this straight.
If it is 12:00 in Miervatia according to IDU Standard, what time would it be in all of Yuunli.
I'm guessing 11:00?[/quote]
Yes, that's it.
Two things I realized only recently:
1) So it's 700 km rather than 7 degrees of longitude? In fact that makes more sense. As a matter of fact, I live at exactly 7? east IRL, and the local time is a little bit closer to WET than to CET. That's why the sun is at its highest point at about 11:35 GMT = 12:35 CET = 13:35 CEST (Central European Summer Time).
On Earth, you have a difference of 1 hour every 15 degrees of latitude, or of half an hour every 7.5?.
Compared to Earth, the IDU planet would have an equatorial circumference of 33,600 km if 700 km meant a time difference of 30 minutes. That corresponds to a diameter of approximately 10,700 km or 84% the size of Earth, where you have a difference of an hour every 1670 km at the equator.
2) What about metric time? Do we really have to use the unintuitive and old-fashioned habit of calculating with 60 seconds per minute, 60 minutes per hour, and 24 hours per day? Why not let a day have 100,000 instead of 86,400 seconds? Then one new second would correspond to 0.864 traditional seconds. Then a kilosecond will be 864 seconds = 14 minutes 24 seconds.
Or, if we assume the same rotational velocity as Earth - 465.11 m/s - for our planet, a day would have 20 hours 7 minutes 20 seconds. That's 72,440 traditional seconds. So if we define an IDU planet day to have 100,000 new seconds, one new second will correspond to 0.7244 traditional seconds. Then a kilosecond will be 724.4 seconds = 12 minutes 4.4 seconds.
EDIT
Alternatively, you can define a new minute to be 1/1000 of a day. That would make 1 NM = 1 minute 26.4 seconds / 1 minute 12.44 seconds, 10 NM = 14 minutes 24 / 12 minutes 4, 100 NM = 2 hours 24 minutes / 2 hours 44 seconds, 0.1 NM = 8.64 s / 7.244 s, 0.01 NM = 0.86 / 0.72 s ;-)
The sun is at its highest point at the following times:
- Miervatian Line: 11:00 YT
- easternmost point of Mich-Inzl: 11:10 YT
[/quote]
Ok, just to get this straight.
If it is 12:00 in Miervatia according to IDU Standard, what time would it be in all of Yuunli.
I'm guessing 11:00?[/quote]
Yes, that's it.
Two things I realized only recently:
1) So it's 700 km rather than 7 degrees of longitude? In fact that makes more sense. As a matter of fact, I live at exactly 7? east IRL, and the local time is a little bit closer to WET than to CET. That's why the sun is at its highest point at about 11:35 GMT = 12:35 CET = 13:35 CEST (Central European Summer Time).
On Earth, you have a difference of 1 hour every 15 degrees of latitude, or of half an hour every 7.5?.
Compared to Earth, the IDU planet would have an equatorial circumference of 33,600 km if 700 km meant a time difference of 30 minutes. That corresponds to a diameter of approximately 10,700 km or 84% the size of Earth, where you have a difference of an hour every 1670 km at the equator.
2) What about metric time? Do we really have to use the unintuitive and old-fashioned habit of calculating with 60 seconds per minute, 60 minutes per hour, and 24 hours per day? Why not let a day have 100,000 instead of 86,400 seconds? Then one new second would correspond to 0.864 traditional seconds. Then a kilosecond will be 864 seconds = 14 minutes 24 seconds.
Or, if we assume the same rotational velocity as Earth - 465.11 m/s - for our planet, a day would have 20 hours 7 minutes 20 seconds. That's 72,440 traditional seconds. So if we define an IDU planet day to have 100,000 new seconds, one new second will correspond to 0.7244 traditional seconds. Then a kilosecond will be 724.4 seconds = 12 minutes 4.4 seconds.
EDIT
Alternatively, you can define a new minute to be 1/1000 of a day. That would make 1 NM = 1 minute 26.4 seconds / 1 minute 12.44 seconds, 10 NM = 14 minutes 24 / 12 minutes 4, 100 NM = 2 hours 24 minutes / 2 hours 44 seconds, 0.1 NM = 8.64 s / 7.244 s, 0.01 NM = 0.86 / 0.72 s ;-)
08-03-2005, 11:30 AM
While unfortunately I can't load the entire map here (seems very slow, only get the top half).........
The Interstellar Federation of DataGenesis is unfortunately in almost precisely the same longitude as Groot Gouda.
As a result part of the nation will agree to take on the same time zone of our larger southern neighbour as a sign of respect.
Thus the portion of DataGenesis south of Mayn Pass where the coast starts (the bulging bit at the bottom of DataGenesis) will observe WGT.
The rest of DataGenesis will observe the 1000 timezone (-2 MT). I would prefer to not name the timezone after the country because there are a number of other countries will use it.
My suggestions are "Mayn Time" due to the location of the great pass directly on the border of the time zone, or perhaps "Silver Time" after the Silver mountains. I would welcome suggestions from Groot Gouda, Pagemaster and GrosseSchnauser or any other nation on the name of this zone.
We will also observe Daylight Saving time.
The Interstellar Federation of DataGenesis is unfortunately in almost precisely the same longitude as Groot Gouda.
As a result part of the nation will agree to take on the same time zone of our larger southern neighbour as a sign of respect.
Thus the portion of DataGenesis south of Mayn Pass where the coast starts (the bulging bit at the bottom of DataGenesis) will observe WGT.
The rest of DataGenesis will observe the 1000 timezone (-2 MT). I would prefer to not name the timezone after the country because there are a number of other countries will use it.
My suggestions are "Mayn Time" due to the location of the great pass directly on the border of the time zone, or perhaps "Silver Time" after the Silver mountains. I would welcome suggestions from Groot Gouda, Pagemaster and GrosseSchnauser or any other nation on the name of this zone.
We will also observe Daylight Saving time.
08-04-2005, 07:23 AM
I like Yuunli's options for metric time. Does it deserve a separate discussion thread?
08-04-2005, 01:57 PM
The thing is though - is the IDU a planet? I'd like to think of us more like part of this huge globe full with a hundred thousand nations, not a planet of our own. That would limit the possibilities of time zones and metric time...
08-04-2005, 07:05 PM
Groot GoudaAug 4 2005, 11:57 AM The thing is though - is the IDU a planet? I'd like to think of us more like part of this huge globe full with a hundred thousand nations, not a planet of our own. That would limit the possibilities of time zones and metric time... [/quote]
I agree.
Although it could mean that the planet is larger than real life Jupiter. :lol:
I agree.
Although it could mean that the planet is larger than real life Jupiter. :lol:
08-06-2005, 07:25 AM
Adam Island is just one big, friendly time-zone. Wherever we make the most sense geographically is what time we can be aligned on.
08-06-2005, 10:25 AM
Adam IslandAug 6 2005, 07:25 AM Adam Island is just one big, friendly time-zone. Wherever we make the most sense geographically is what time we can be aligned on. [/quote]
On the latest IDU map, Adam Island's westernmost point is near the 42 west mark, and the easternmost point near the 21 west mark.
So your local time should be between 9:00 and 10:30 when it's noon on the Miervatian Line, with the centroid at about 9:30.
On the latest IDU map, Adam Island's westernmost point is near the 42 west mark, and the easternmost point near the 21 west mark.
So your local time should be between 9:00 and 10:30 when it's noon on the Miervatian Line, with the centroid at about 9:30.
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