05-08-2008, 09:04 PM
Can anyone else see the adverts for the "ringtones"? *sigh*
05-12-2008, 06:49 PM
Depends on your stance, McCain or Hillary or Obama. Personally I don't like any of them.
05-13-2008, 02:48 AM
GerainiaMay 12 2008, 11:33 AM I'm not American, so I'm unfamiliar with the scene, but for a Rep, he seems good. Age may be a slight hinderance, mind. [/quote]
My biggest objection to John McCain is his stance on the Iraq War. There's this one clip where he says we could be in Iraq for "100 years". It's not fair to base my judgment of him on that one sentence, but I think it's fairly indicative of his plan. And he's still pretty much a social conservative. He's more moderate than, say, Bush, but still: ew.
Out of all the candidates that could win, I prefer Obama. I caucused for him and everything. Sure, third party candidates would be nice, but they can't win. I'm not throwing away my vote. (Because I can vote in these elections
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(I sort of apologize for turning this into a debate. Then again, our forums have never been really picky about that
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My biggest objection to John McCain is his stance on the Iraq War. There's this one clip where he says we could be in Iraq for "100 years". It's not fair to base my judgment of him on that one sentence, but I think it's fairly indicative of his plan. And he's still pretty much a social conservative. He's more moderate than, say, Bush, but still: ew.
Out of all the candidates that could win, I prefer Obama. I caucused for him and everything. Sure, third party candidates would be nice, but they can't win. I'm not throwing away my vote. (Because I can vote in these elections
)(I sort of apologize for turning this into a debate. Then again, our forums have never been really picky about that
)
05-13-2008, 05:30 AM
Its not throwing away your vote, by showing support for 3rd party candidates you give them more power to fight the dominant parties. I'm sick and tired of this monopoly the Democrats and Republicans have had on the elections for almost a hundred and forty years. Its time things changed.
05-13-2008, 07:20 PM
True they can, but the Dems and Repub. shut them out, refusing to acknowledge they exist and thereby exclude them from the media spotlight.
05-14-2008, 01:38 AM
pagemasterMay 12 2008, 10:30 PM Its not throwing away your vote, by showing support for 3rd party candidates you give them more power to fight the dominant parties. I'm sick and tired of this monopoly the Democrats and Republicans have had on the elections for almost a hundred and forty years. Its time things changed. [/quote]
The only problem is that there hasn't been any 3rd party candidate with any real hope of winning for the last 140 years. (Wallace with the Dixiecrats, maybe. But really, no.) Most people who vote 3rd party would probably choose the Democratic candidate, which just takes votes away from Obama (since he's the winner). I don't like the system any more than you do, but fighting it just makes it more likely that the Republican will win. And I simply can't stand for another Republican.
Until a 3rd party candidate can get media attention and some actual support from a lot of people, I don't think I'll vote for any of them. Trust me, I'd like to. I think 4 years run by the Greens or even the Libertarians might really do some good. (Especially the Greens. We need some serious environmental help.) It's really unfortunate.
The only problem is that there hasn't been any 3rd party candidate with any real hope of winning for the last 140 years. (Wallace with the Dixiecrats, maybe. But really, no.) Most people who vote 3rd party would probably choose the Democratic candidate, which just takes votes away from Obama (since he's the winner). I don't like the system any more than you do, but fighting it just makes it more likely that the Republican will win. And I simply can't stand for another Republican.
Until a 3rd party candidate can get media attention and some actual support from a lot of people, I don't think I'll vote for any of them. Trust me, I'd like to. I think 4 years run by the Greens or even the Libertarians might really do some good. (Especially the Greens. We need some serious environmental help.) It's really unfortunate.
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