Anadromous Fish Protection
#1

Hello,

Today in the UN there was a discussion on the subject of hydroelectric dams. As a nation rich with potential dam sites, and a few such dams, we've always tried to work with fellow IDU nations in order to prevent our generation of hydroelectric power from resulting in environmental deregation of your rivers and beaches.

However, it seems that this sort of regional cooperation might not exist in other areas of the world, and my government wanted to ask for opinions from fellow IDU members about the possibility of introducing a UN resolution recommending the research and development of more sustainable temperature and sediment control devices for hydroelectric facilities in order to promote commerce via increased navigatibility and fisheries, as well as to promote reliability in drinking water supplies.

The idea would largely focus on a preamble discussing the known negative regional / international impacts of hydroelectric plants, with the activating clauses including several suggestions for national governments to take.

A better title might perhaps be "Mitigation of Hydroelectric Plants", since we could build drinking water and erosion control issues into the resolution, but Anondromous Fish Protection would allow for a more focused resolution on simply temperature control devices.

Thoughts?

[OOC: I'm again trying to use a NS UN resolution to introduce a complex liberal issue to the thousands of players of the game.] Smile
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#2

Wouldn't another mechanism be the construction of structures that would allow such fish to migrate around hydroelectric dams?
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#3

GrosseschnauzerJul 2 2005, 01:40 PM Wouldn't another mechanism be the construction of structures that would allow such fish to migrate around hydroelectric dams? [/quote]
Yes, they call those fish ladders! Smile

They are used to allow the fish to get to their spawning beds. However, the smolts (juveniles salmon) still live in the streams downstream of their spawning beds and require temperature and sediment to be "natural".

If the proposal were to focus on "Anadromous Fish Protection", I think including a clause recommending fish ladders and encouraging national fisheries agencies in sharing the technical designs related to these and other fish passage structures would be a neat idea to promote.

It seems like there are probably enough different fish options that the resolution could just focus on that, without getting into drinking water issues.
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#4

I think this might be something we could endorse. After all, if one looks at the IDU map, the schnauzervolk nations have quite a few areas that have mountains and rivers, for which hydro-electric energy is the most sustainable form of energy generation, including the off-mainland islands included in the territories in our jurisdiction.

And masking the proposals as a protection of fish proposals which include standards for hydro-electric dams would likely attract more support in the UN.
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#5

Mikitivity --

I think this is a good idea to explore. It would also help dispell the thought that the UN is a bunch of impractical dreamers. In RL, I hear how "natural" hydroelectric dams are, and some people seem genuinely shocked when I mention some of the problems you have alluded to.

No power generator is totally neutral environmentally, so it is our responsibility to investigate the potential and actual problems and mitigate them as much as we can. I like your "mitigation" name variation. I'm not sure "anondromous" would be so user friendly in the title of the proposal. Wink
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#6

Sober ThoughtJul 4 2005, 11:48 PM Mikitivity --

I think this is a good idea to explore. It would also help dispell the thought that the UN is a bunch of impractical dreamers. In RL, I hear how "natural" hydroelectric dams are, and some people seem genuinely shocked when I mention some of the problems you have alluded to.

No power generator is totally neutral environmentally, so it is our responsibility to investigate the potential and actual problems and mitigate them as much as we can. I like your "mitigation" name variation. I'm not sure "anondromous" would be so user friendly in the title of the proposal. Wink [/quote]
Well put.
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Sober ThoughtJul 4 2005, 04:48 PM No power generator is totally neutral environmentally, so it is our responsibility to investigate the potential and actual problems and mitigate them as much as we can. I like your "mitigation" name variation. I'm not sure "anondromous" would be so user friendly in the title of the proposal. Wink [/quote]
Thanks all! It sounds like we can work on something here that will be a bit educational and fun.

And yes, anondromous is likely to be a new word to many UN diplomats. Perhaps I title the proposal "Mitigation of Hydroelectric Plants", as suggested and just use the first preamble to talk about the economic importance of anondromous fish populations in *international* waters, and then define what anondromous means and introduce the importance of fisheries management.

I wanted to spend about 3 preamble clauses doing this.

A very large part of the motivation is based on Frisbeeteria (a forum moderator) pointing out the large number of school regions and students in the game. I am hoping that a balanced environmental proposal might make an interesting debate for our nations as well as the student regions. (Fris didn't suggest the idea, just pointed out that he felt there might be nearly 10,000 student created nations in the game. A guess on his part.)

I'll start working on a skeleton structure this week.
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#8

Here is the first cut of the PREAMBLE:

Quote: 
Mitigation of Hydroelectric Plants
A resolution to increase the quality of the world?s environment, at the expense of industry.

Category: Environmental
Industry Affected: All Businesses
Proposed by: Mikitivity

Description:
The NationStates United Nations,

RECOGNIZING that many large watersheds and river systems cross international boundaries, and thus represent a shared resource between riparian nations;

OBSERVING the international nature of the economic benefit of abundant and healthy anadromous fish populations, such as salmon, which are born in small mountainous freshwater streams where they remain as fry and parr before transforming into smolts, then travel hundreds of kilometers down major river systems to reach the sea where they live most of their adult lives, and later return to the same streams where they were hatched in order to breed, to ocean and freshwater commercial fisheries;

AWARE that salmon represent an important source of Omega-3 fatty acids, though farmed salmon tend to have higher concentrations of dioxins and PCBs than wild salmon;

NOTING the desire to increase the maximum electrical output of existing hydroelectric plants by raising the head, or maximum storage height of the plant, or to design new hydroelectric power plants in order to meet growing electricity demands as part of an alternative to relying upon other forms of power generation;

BEARING IN MIND that the operation of large-scale hydroelectric plants alters the unimpaired (i.e. natural) water temperature and sediment load in the water downstream of the planet;

TAKING NOTE of the fact that since many migratory species, including anadromous fish, can not tolerate significant long-term deviations in the natural variations in water temperature and / or sediment loads, that there have been declines in many natural species populations;

CONVINCED that in order for hydroelectric power to be of net beneficial use, that the environmental and commercial impacts on reservoir releases must be managed or mitigated in a sustainable way;
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I plan to work on the activating clauses next. With these, I'm going to talk about Temperature Control Devices, Fish Ladders, and find some way to address sediment loads and bank erosion issues. The resolution will close by calling upon nations that share international water ways to work closely together. I might want to stress again that salmon are often caught in the ocean, where they truely are an international resource, even if the fish are born in the mountains of a single nation.
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#9

Mitigation of Hydroelectric Plants
A resolution to increase the quality of the world?s environment, at the expense of industry.

Category: Environmental
Industry Affected: All Businesses
Proposed by: Mikitivity

Description:
The NationStates United Nations,

RECOGNIZING that many large watersheds and river systems cross international boundaries, and thus represent a shared resource between riparian and coastal nations;

OBSERVING the international nature of the economic benefit of abundant and healthy anadromous fish populations, such as salmon, which are born in small mountainous freshwater streams where they remain as fry and parr before transforming into smolts, then travel hundreds of kilometers down major river systems to reach the sea where they live most of their adult lives, and later return to the same streams where they were hatched in order to breed, to ocean and freshwater commercial fisheries;

AWARE that salmon represent an important source of Omega-3 fatty acids, though farmed salmon tend to have higher concentrations of dioxins and PCBs than wild salmon;

NOTING the desire to increase the maximum electrical output of existing hydroelectric plants by raising the head, or maximum storage height of the plant, or to design new hydroelectric power plants in order to meet growing electricity demands as part of an alternative to relying upon other forms of power generation;

FURTHER NOTING that electrical power generation is often one of several uses of the water which is stored in multi-use reservoirs;

BEARING IN MIND that the operation of large-reservoirs alters the unimpaired (i.e. natural) flow, water temperature, nutrient availability, and sediment load in the water downstream of the reservoir;

TAKING NOTE of the fact that since many migratory species, including anadromous fish, can not tolerate significant long-term deviations in the natural variations in flow patterns, water temperature, nutrient availability, and / or sediment load, that there have been declines in many native species? populations;

CONVINCED that in order for hydroelectric power to be of net beneficial use, that the environmental and commercial impacts of reservoir releases must be managed or mitigated in a sustainable way;

1. APPROVES of the continued research into the various water supply and hydroelectric power generation reservoir mitigation measures including the design and operation of temperature control devices, construction of fish passage structures (such as fish ladders), use of pulse flows during migration and other critical periods, and maintenance and restoration of riparian organic material sources (such as wetland habitats);

2. CALLS UPON nations to investigate and promote water supply and electrical demand reduction strategies, such encouraging energy efficient equipment, telecommuting and alternative work weeks, and operating large-scale industrial equipment during off-peak electrical demand periods;

3. SUGGESTS that adaptive management techniques such as timing reservoir releases to periods that are beneficial to both riparian wildlife and power users can minimize some of the impacts associated with large-scale reservoir releases;

4. RECOMMENDS the restoration of flood plains and seasonal wetland habitats, including designing flood bypass areas and seasonal agricultural easements;

5. FURTHER RECOMMENDS that these wetlands and flood bypasses be used to offset the need for dedicated floor pool storage in large multi-use reservoirs; and

6. EXPRESSES ITS HOPE that other alternative energy sources will be considered as supplements or alternatives to hydro-electric power generation, with the understanding that a sustainable power supply needs to be diverse and manageable in order to accommodate long-term economic stability.
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#10

It's certainly an interesting idea, but I think you need to be careful with the use of certain terminology. I don't think I'm lacking in vocabulary but I've never before come across terms like 'anadromous, 'riparian' and 'parr' before. My fear is that many people will be put off by such unfamiliar language.
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#11

EcopoeiaJul 9 2005, 11:15 AM It's certainly an interesting idea, but I think you need to be careful with the use of certain terminology. I don't think I'm lacking in vocabulary but I've never before come across terms like 'anadromous, 'riparian' and 'parr' before. My fear is that many people will be put off by such unfamiliar language. [/quote]
First, many thanks for looking it over! Smile

Well, those are the actual names that are *frequently* used in the environmental profession. Smile But you are right, if you were wondering others will too!

How about if we cut down the middle clause though to use less specific language for just the reason you stated.

How does the following sound:

Option 2:
"OBSERVING the international nature of the economic benefit to ocean and freshwater commercial fisheries of abundant and healthy anadromous fish populations, such as salmon, which are born in small inland freshwater streams, later travel hundreds of kilometers to reach the sea where they live most of their adult lives, and eventually return to those exact same streams where they were hatched in order to breed;"

-or-

Option 3:
"OBSERVING the international nature of the economic benefit to ocean and freshwater commercial fisheries of abundant and healthy anadromous fish populations, such as salmon;"

The original was:
"OBSERVING the international nature of the economic benefit of abundant and healthy anadromous fish populations, such as salmon, which are born in small mountainous freshwater streams where they remain as fry and parr before transforming into smolts, then travel hundreds of kilometers down major river systems to reach the sea where they live most of their adult lives, and later return to the same streams where they were hatched in order to breed, to ocean and freshwater commercial fisheries;"


I'll be honest. My goal isn't to have a resolution pass by a significant majority, but rather introduce real-life environmental problems and terms. I wrote this resolution after talking with Fris about the number of students and teachers playing NationStates, and so I decided I'd bring a problem I deal with at work (though indirectly) into the game.

So I don't mind pissing off people or confusing them. I just want to hand something meaningful to a high school teacher, so he / she can then turn the resolution into a classroom exercise. (I'm assuming that there is year round school going on, since many of the classrooms will be empty now that it is summer.)

If you say "anadromous" to a biologist, I promise you that they'll grin and be extremely impressed that you speak their tech-talk. The term basically translates to meaning "living part of your life in freshwater and part of your life in seawater". Salmon are not the only anadromous fish, but they happen to be the most unique in that they can literally taste their original stream even when it is mixed by volume with many other unique and different source waters. They also happen to haven been destroyed in many parts of the world, and as I pointed out, their Omega-3 fatty acid is something that nutriention experts think is extremely important in human diets.

I guess the point is, I probably know more about this than most people, and I wanted the resolution to not have to deal with kids telling me I don't know this stuff, when I do. So I wanted a few technical terms in there. Instead I want them to really *question* if hydroelectric power is as "green" as it is often billed.

The NationStates issue that deals with hydroelectric power is actually a bit misleading. So by getting a resolution to the floor, I'll have a way to bypass that issue and expose people to the subject again.

Riparian should be in the dictionary, and is a legal and biological that means "next to river". Mentioning riparian to a farmer or lawyer goes a long way. Smile I'd like to keep it in the resolution, because of word economy ... one word in the place of three. Perhaps I can scan the resolution and only mention it once though (assuming it pops up more than once).
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#12

Riparian:

Perhaps I can also change this one, which currently reads:
"1. APPROVES of the continued research into the various water supply and hydroelectric power generation reservoir mitigation measures including the design and operation of temperature control devices, construction of fish passage structures (such as fish ladders), use of pulse flows during migration and other critical periods, and maintenance and restoration of riparian organic material sources (such as wetland habitats);"

To something like:
"1. APPROVES of continued research into the various water supply and hydroelectric power generation reservoir mitigation measures including the design and operation of temperature control devices, construction of fish passage structures (such as fish ladders), use of pulse flows during migration and other critical periods, and maintenance and restoration of wetlands (which are important nutrient sources);"

That removes rpiarian and organic material.

I also deleted a "the" at the beginning of that clause.

Another way to shorten this one, might be to say:

"1. APPROVES of continued research into various large-scale reservoir mitigation measures ..."

Thoughts?
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#13

I like the changes (and the justifications: NS as an educational tool - nice!), both long and short form.
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#14

Mitigation of Hydroelectric Plants
A resolution to increase the quality of the world?s environment, at the expense of industry.

Category: Environmental
Industry Affected: All Businesses
Proposed by: Mikitivity

Description:
The NationStates United Nations,

RECOGNIZING that many large watersheds and river systems cross international boundaries, and thus represent a shared resource between riparian and coastal nations;

OBSERVING the international nature of the economic benefit to ocean and freshwater commercial fisheries of abundant and healthy anadromous fish populations, such as salmon;

AWARE that salmon represent an important source of Omega-3 fatty acids, though farmed salmon tend to have higher concentrations of dioxins and PCBs than wild salmon;

NOTING the desire to increase the maximum electrical output of existing hydroelectric plants by increasing the height of reservoirs or to design new hydroelectric power plants in order to meet growing electricity demands;

FURTHER NOTING that electrical power generation is often one of several uses of the water stored in multi-use reservoirs;

BEARING IN MIND that the operation of large-reservoirs alters the unimpaired (i.e. natural) flow, water temperature, nutrient availability, and sediment load in the water downstream of the reservoir;

TAKING NOTE of the fact that since many migratory species, including anadromous fish, can not tolerate significant long-term deviations in the natural variations in flow patterns, water temperature, nutrient availability, and / or sediment load, that there have been declines in many native species? populations;

CONVINCED that in order for hydroelectric power to be of net beneficial use, that the environmental and commercial impacts of reservoir releases must be managed or mitigated in a sustainable way;

1. APPROVES of continued research into various large-scale reservoir mitigation measures including the design and operation of temperature control devices, construction of fish passage structures (such as fish ladders), use of pulse flows during migration and other critical periods, and maintenance and restoration of wetlands (which are important nutrient sources);

2. CALLS UPON nations to investigate and promote water supply and electrical demand reduction strategies, such encouraging energy efficient equipment, telecommuting and alternative work weeks, and operating large-scale industrial equipment during off-peak electrical demand periods;

3. SUGGESTS that adaptive management techniques such as timing reservoir releases to periods that are beneficial to both riparian wildlife and power users can minimize some of the impacts associated with large-scale reservoir releases;

4. RECOMMENDS the restoration of flood plains and seasonal wetland habitats, including designing flood bypass areas and seasonal agricultural easements;

5. FURTHER RECOMMENDS that these wetlands and flood bypasses be used to offset the need for dedicated flood storage in large multi-use reservoirs; and

6. EXPRESSES ITS HOPE that other alternative energy sources will be considered as supplements or alternatives to hydroelectric power generation, with the understanding that a sustainable power supply needs to be diverse and manageable in order to accommodate long-term economic stability.
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#15

The above is a new / shortened version of the first draft.

If there aren't any comments, I'd like to start taking this second draft to our allied regions and submitting the draft for their input.
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#16

OOC: I do have comments, but probably none that will affect the text.

I like it. It raises awareness of an issue that is important in many UN nations and presents practical means of addressing that issue while not being so stringent that it forces those nations who don't have this problem to waste time doing something about it. And it presents some interesting opportunities for roleplay.
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#17

TurboDieselJul 15 2005, 11:18 PM OOC: I do have comments, but probably none that will affect the text.

I like it. It raises awareness of an issue that is important in many UN nations and presents practical means of addressing that issue while not being so stringent that it forces those nations who don't have this problem to waste time doing something about it. And it presents some interesting opportunities for roleplay. [/quote]
WOW! Thanks very much! That means a great deal to me ... ahem my government! Smile
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#18

MikitivityJul 16 2005, 04:46 PM TurboDieselJul 15 2005, 11:18 PM OOC: I do have comments, but probably none that will affect the text. 

I like it.  It raises awareness of an issue that is important in many UN nations and presents practical means of addressing that issue while not being so stringent that it forces those nations who don't have this problem to waste time doing something about it.  And it presents some interesting opportunities for roleplay. [/quote]
WOW! Thanks very much! That means a great deal to me ... ahem my government! Smile [/quote]
No problem. I'm just honest. If I think it's good, I'll say so. If I think it's bad, I'll say so. Smile
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#19

Hydroelectric Mitigation
A resolution to increase the quality of the world?s environment, at the expense of industry.

Category: Environmental
Industry Affected: All Businesses
Proposed by: Mikitivity

Description:
The NationStates United Nations,

RECOGNIZING that many large watersheds and river systems cross international boundaries, and thus represent a shared resource between riparian and coastal nations;

OBSERVING the international nature of the economic benefit to ocean and freshwater commercial fisheries of abundant and healthy anadromous fish populations, such as salmon;

AWARE that salmon represent an important source of Omega-3 fatty acids, though farmed salmon tend to have higher concentrations of dioxins and PCBs than wild salmon;

NOTING the desire to increase the maximum electrical output of existing hydroelectric plants by increasing the height of reservoirs or to design new hydroelectric power plants in order to meet growing electricity demands;

FURTHER NOTING that electrical power generation is often one of several uses of the water stored in multi-use reservoirs;

BEARING IN MIND that the operation of large-reservoirs alters the unimpaired (i.e. natural) flow, water temperature, nutrient availability, and sediment load in the water downstream of the reservoir, which has led to the decline in many native species' populations;

CONCERNED that methane emissions from decomposition in reservoirs could contribute substantially to global warming;

CONVINCED that in order for hydroelectric power to be of net beneficial use, that the environmental and commercial impacts of reservoir releases must be managed or mitigated in a sustainable way;

1. APPROVES of continued research into various large-scale reservoir mitigation measures including the design and operation of temperature control devices, construction of fish passage structures (such as fish ladders), use of pulse flows during migration and other critical periods, and maintenance and restoration of wetlands (which are important nutrient sources);

2. CALLS UPON nations to investigate and promote water supply and electrical demand reduction strategies, such encouraging energy efficient equipment, telecommuting and alternative work weeks, and operating large-scale industrial equipment during off-peak electrical demand periods;

3. SUGGESTS that adaptive management techniques such as timing reservoir releases to periods that are beneficial to both riparian wildlife and power users can minimize some of the impacts associated with large-scale reservoir releases;

4. RECOMMENDS the restoration of flood plains and seasonal wetland habitats, including designing flood bypass areas and seasonal agricultural easements;

5. FURTHER RECOMMENDS that these wetlands and flood bypasses be used to offset the need for dedicated flood storage in large multi-use reservoirs; and

6. EXPRESSES ITS HOPE that other alternative energy sources will be considered as supplements or alternatives to hydroelectric power generation, with the understanding that a sustainable power supply needs to be diverse and manageable in order to accommodate long-term economic stability.
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#20

The proposal was submitted, as the fourth draft form minutes ago as "Hydroelectric Mitigation". The original title "Mitigation of Hydroelectric Plants" was too long. Sad

It can be currently located here.

My government would appreciate it if you'd ask your UN Delegate to endorse this proposal. Feedback is still welcomed!
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#21

Here is the form letter I'm sending out:

Hello,

I?m contacting you to ask that you look over and consider endorsing my government?s proposal ?Hydroelectric Mitigation?. In brief, the proposal does not outlaw hydroelectric power, but it does encourage sustainable environmental management policies that hopefully will protect endangered fish species, which are vital to many countries.

The proposal has gone through four drafts and been reviewed by a number of UN members. You can read the early drafts and comments at: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=432401

You can currently find the proposal at:
http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index....oposal/start=30

Or you can search for the keywords ?Hydroelectric Mitigation?.

Thank you for your time!
Howie T. Katzman
Office of International Affairs, Confederated City States of Mikitivity
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#22

Wil approve.
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#23

Approvals: 86 (Ecopoeia, Hermitistan, Zouloukistan, Dsjtuj, Crazyvichistan, Adasa, Abbraccialbero, Darth Mall, Skandango, Yeldan UN Mission, Gaiah, Barba001, Clintoned, Kelstania, Darpatia, Groot Gouda, Barnabas Butterbur, Enn, Witherspoon, Gorff, Starps, Sean Sweeney, BLACKGRUE, Avalya, The Faery Goddess, Punrovia, HopelesslyLost, Brocklandia, Nerion, Gunfreak, Manhattan Prime, Levornia, The Hunter Isles, NewTexas, The Grand Mystic, StapleSauce, Feq, Missouriania, Meertistan, Meteorologica, ZackisDead, Monadnock, Kilobugya, Seattletonia, Darkreigner, Macchiavellian Masons, Madracon, Lubbadub, Khadir, Elika, Stankistia, Melmond, Kiloran, Jimoria, Amphibian Sogginess, Corona Drinkers, Morgazm, Two Forks, Tambien, Perrygaye, AwalKB, Nosedondekistan, Of Cascadia, Jey, Finbergia, Kaorine, Ytre Himmel, Venerable libertarians, Kypseli, JOHNATHAN CENA, Strike Freedom, Uzbekistan and Solomon, YaAllWantASingle, KualaLumpar, Maciavely, Arthuria-Elizabetia, Conchland, Clan McDonald, Goobergunchia III, Arab League, L4YER5, Klashonite, Drunken Butterfly, Pooplaracha, DSM-IV, Enduria)

Half way there. With one day to go, it looks like it might not make it. Sad
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#24

Approvals: 127 (Pure Honduras, Yeldan UN Mission, Arthuria-Elizabetia, Punrovia, AwalKB, NewTexas, Finbergia, Elika, Nutellaland, Drunken Butterfly, Manhattan Prime, Darth Mall, Skandango, The Hunter Isles, Missouriania, Feq, Findan, Ecopoeia, FWEDD, Adasa, Craktonija, The moon wolf, Nosedondekistan, Brocklandia, Two Forks, Darkreigner, Aquarian Arcadia, Enduria, Caer Rialis, Tambien, Gaiah, Seattletonia, Naaaaaaaaaavanites, Kilobugya, Darpatia, Dsjtuj, Gunfreak, Groot Gouda, Clintoned, Danitoria, Funkdunk, Zouloukistan, Latin School, FatTron, Laurinians, Spaz Land, Intangelon, HopelesslyLost, Venerable libertarians, Small Pox, Renmar, Abbraccialbero, Kiloran, Strike Freedom, L4YER5, Caseylvania, The Shadow-Kai, Nelvaan, Markodonia, Grande Comore, Pharan, Emory, Not So Bad, Enn, Rolling Stone, Kleinekatzen, Witherspoon, Metasequoia, Kapellen, Jimoria, Triversia, Clan McDonald, Purpleation, Howard Wong, Liberialand, Republic of Peoples, Gorff, Sinns right hand, DragonWarrior33, TBOTE, Kaorine, Stephanopoulos, The Grand Mystic, Hitler the Nazi, Tonca, GodsPlace, Bielzabites, Eastern lolland, Uzbekistan and Solomon, FinEcon, Clog_Glog, SouthFerns, Vendeling, Cocomacca, Daqurra, Jal-Sen Katmec, Freedom in Tibet, McGranaghanataria, Binhaii, Tsukame, Blaming, Straatman, Raveworld, Czardas, Atlantinas, Crimetopia, Emerald Phoenix, Knakworst, Vyborova, Euroslavia, Microdell, North Dutchfieldia, Denea, Monadnock, Bunny Pancake, Kingdinium, New Hamilton, Dwars, Faradawn, United States of Mars, Kyleshire, Italia Major, Serenitacious Sereness, Hogwarts Castle - Gryf, Durnia, Sdewen, Beefypeanut)

About where it finished ... it stands a 75/25 chance as of this morning. It expires this go around on Wednesday night. The change in endorsements is likely related to Ecopoeia's resolution, which this proposal seems to be riding on its coattails. Smile
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#25

Approvals: 138 (Pure Honduras, Yeldan UN Mission, Arthuria-Elizabetia, Punrovia, AwalKB, NewTexas, Finbergia, Elika, Nutellaland, Drunken Butterfly, Manhattan Prime, Darth Mall, Skandango, The Hunter Isles, Missouriania, Feq, Findan, Ecopoeia, FWEDD, Adasa, Craktonija, The moon wolf, Nosedondekistan, Brocklandia, Two Forks, Darkreigner, Aquarian Arcadia, Enduria, Caer Rialis, Tambien, Gaiah, Seattletonia, Naaaaaaaaaavanites, Kilobugya, Darpatia, Dsjtuj, Gunfreak, Groot Gouda, Clintoned, Danitoria, Funkdunk, Zouloukistan, Latin School, FatTron, Laurinians, Spaz Land, Intangelon, HopelesslyLost, Venerable libertarians, Small Pox, Renmar, Abbraccialbero, Kiloran, Strike Freedom, L4YER5, Caseylvania, The Shadow-Kai, Nelvaan, Markodonia, Grande Comore, Pharan, Emory, Not So Bad, Enn, Rolling Stone, Kleinekatzen, Witherspoon, Metasequoia, Kapellen, Jimoria, Triversia, Clan McDonald, Purpleation, Howard Wong, Liberialand, Republic of Peoples, Gorff, Sinns right hand, DragonWarrior33, TBOTE, Kaorine, Stephanopoulos, The Grand Mystic, Hitler the Nazi, Tonca, GodsPlace, Bielzabites, Eastern lolland, Uzbekistan and Solomon, FinEcon, Clog_Glog, SouthFerns, Vendeling, Cocomacca, Daqurra, Jal-Sen Katmec, Freedom in Tibet, McGranaghanataria, Binhaii, Tsukame, Blaming, Straatman, Raveworld, Czardas, Atlantinas, Crimetopia, Emerald Phoenix, Knakworst, Vyborova, Euroslavia, Microdell, North Dutchfieldia, Denea, Monadnock, Bunny Pancake, Kingdinium, New Hamilton, Dwars, Faradawn, United States of Mars, Kyleshire, Italia Major, Serenitacious Sereness, Hogwarts Castle - Gryf, Durnia, Sdewen, Beefypeanut, Dizziness, Freedom For Most, Barfieldslande, Agamben, Jjuulliiaann, CNYSkinFan, Belakadaan, Poppuli, MegMayhem, Jiggy MaMerica, Brunelian BG advocates)

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