09-30-2005, 03:49 PM
Lazy daysSep 28 2005, 09:06 PM As far as being international, the drug trade (both recreational and medicinal) is one of the largest industries in the world. I'm pretty sure it's much much larger than agricultural trade. But regardless of that, the right to be free from unwarranted imprisonment is a much more established and sought after right to enforce on other nations (which is what a NSUN resolution on human rights is, forcing other countries to do something they don't want to do) than is forcing other countries to put the right languages and nutritional information on their products and to not misuse organic and fresh. [/quote]
But that's a different resolution. That's not about drugs specifically. What you are talking about here is about the freedom to do with your body what you want. If you can state that, without any reference to taking drugs, it's Human Rights.
What you're also doing then, in a sneaky way, is pave the way for a legalize recreational drugs resolution. Which you can propose after the first one passes. Then you might actually have a chance to legalize drugs, which would have full support from my nation.
Quote: I don't want to make this a practical argument about legalization, because that matter is essentially settled. There are plenty of reasons to make certain drugs illegal, but they have nothing to do with making society better. The justification for a law is a lot different than the actual affects of a law. Proponents of criminalization can claim anything they want. It doesn't change the facts; namely, that drug laws are inconsistently applied, hypocritical, ignorant of science, and do more harm than good. They are extremely immoral. Study alcohol prohibition in the United States if you simply refuse to believe the facts.[/quote]
True, but that's not the issue here. The issue is that you're trying to pass a legalize-drugs-resolution under the wrong category, and I cannot believe the mods will simply let that happen.
Quote: This resolution does not prevent a country from banning alcohol or Vicadin or whatever. It simply makes it illegal to lock someone up for drinking alcohol or taking Vicadin or growing marijuana and so on.[/quote]
As I and others said, that's essentially making it illegal. You can't say nations aren't allowed to punish people using drugs, but that they can still make it illegal. What do you propose nations do against (recreational) drugs if they can't lock up people taking or trading them?
But that's a different resolution. That's not about drugs specifically. What you are talking about here is about the freedom to do with your body what you want. If you can state that, without any reference to taking drugs, it's Human Rights.
What you're also doing then, in a sneaky way, is pave the way for a legalize recreational drugs resolution. Which you can propose after the first one passes. Then you might actually have a chance to legalize drugs, which would have full support from my nation.
Quote: I don't want to make this a practical argument about legalization, because that matter is essentially settled. There are plenty of reasons to make certain drugs illegal, but they have nothing to do with making society better. The justification for a law is a lot different than the actual affects of a law. Proponents of criminalization can claim anything they want. It doesn't change the facts; namely, that drug laws are inconsistently applied, hypocritical, ignorant of science, and do more harm than good. They are extremely immoral. Study alcohol prohibition in the United States if you simply refuse to believe the facts.[/quote]
True, but that's not the issue here. The issue is that you're trying to pass a legalize-drugs-resolution under the wrong category, and I cannot believe the mods will simply let that happen.
Quote: This resolution does not prevent a country from banning alcohol or Vicadin or whatever. It simply makes it illegal to lock someone up for drinking alcohol or taking Vicadin or growing marijuana and so on.[/quote]
As I and others said, that's essentially making it illegal. You can't say nations aren't allowed to punish people using drugs, but that they can still make it illegal. What do you propose nations do against (recreational) drugs if they can't lock up people taking or trading them?