08-24-2005, 05:16 AM
QUOTE; Groot Gouda:
[In one way you're right. But on the other hand, sometimes nations are unable to handle the problem without outside help. That's why I've phrased clause 1 as it is.]
This is a verrry sticky problem. We already know what happens from RL situations when countries assume to know whats best for other countries and give them assistance (sometimes with force). While I agree that some nations are not able to handle the problem, it should be up to them to ask for assistance - assistance should not be forced upon them - it a breach of their sovereign rights (even if we disagree with the way that country is run).
Personally I think that every human deserves adequate food, shelter, education and security but I don't the world (even with its 144,00 or so nations) has the resources to give every UN citizen the same basic living standard. While all peoples are equal - all nations are not.
Still love the work on clause 4 - do we have a UN agency to take care of these things? Isn't their already a resolution that covers this basic human right? What is the definition of "adequate shelter", in most RL countries that doesn't include plumbing, electricity, running water or indoor toilet facilities. I don't think Clause 4 should be sneaked in - its a really important issue that needs to be looked at.
I guess i'm just lucky that I live in a RL country (Australia) that pays approx A$900 (about $US650) per month for a single unemployed person and has free universal health care. I just hope Lawtonia turns out the same way. (except for having a complete knob for a leader!)
[In one way you're right. But on the other hand, sometimes nations are unable to handle the problem without outside help. That's why I've phrased clause 1 as it is.]
This is a verrry sticky problem. We already know what happens from RL situations when countries assume to know whats best for other countries and give them assistance (sometimes with force). While I agree that some nations are not able to handle the problem, it should be up to them to ask for assistance - assistance should not be forced upon them - it a breach of their sovereign rights (even if we disagree with the way that country is run).
Personally I think that every human deserves adequate food, shelter, education and security but I don't the world (even with its 144,00 or so nations) has the resources to give every UN citizen the same basic living standard. While all peoples are equal - all nations are not.
Still love the work on clause 4 - do we have a UN agency to take care of these things? Isn't their already a resolution that covers this basic human right? What is the definition of "adequate shelter", in most RL countries that doesn't include plumbing, electricity, running water or indoor toilet facilities. I don't think Clause 4 should be sneaked in - its a really important issue that needs to be looked at. I guess i'm just lucky that I live in a RL country (Australia) that pays approx A$900 (about $US650) per month for a single unemployed person and has free universal health care. I just hope Lawtonia turns out the same way. (except for having a complete knob for a leader!)