09-13-2017, 04:18 PM
DrasniaSep 13 2017, 08:00:47 AMQuote: "2. Requires that, upon request, any citizen who would otherwise be allowed to vote in an existing election but is unable to visit a polling location without undue stress, cost, or other concerns be given access to an absentee ballot, whether pysical, electronic, or otherwise, that can be filled out and sent to the nation's Electoral Commission or equivalent body to be counted;"[/quote]
Quote: With this proposal there's also the problem where it can be considered optional by those without democracies, which could render it illegal. I would suggest putting in another operative clause that can be binding on any nation, regardless of whether or not elections are legal. Nothing comes to mind immediately to me, but have a think on it. Perhaps something like "MANDATES that no member state shall compel their citizens to pay for postage if it is mail being sent to an organ of the State" or something like that.[/quote]
My understanding, especially after chatting with some of the folks on the WA Discord server, is that it's perfectly fine to have a proposal that doesn't really apply to some nations. If we passed something that only required that all cars in member nations need to have seatbelts, we aren't going to be forcing every member nation to allow cars in their nation in order to comply. That's stupid.
Likewise, taking the current proposal at vote - Auralia's "Convention on Net Neutrality" - everything in that resolution pertains to nations in the Internet Era or later. Fantasy/Past Tech nations have nothing to do if that passes. There's no mention in it of anything other than Internet and Network communication. FT/PT nations aren't going to be forced to have computers and the internet in order to comply with it.
I'm sure Bears would be happy to weigh in on it too
Thanks for the critique, btw. It's really helpful.[/quote]Re that version of '2', Id' suggest changing "any citizen who would otherwise be allowed to vote" to "any citizen who would otherwise be eligible to vote".
Re the 'optionality' question: Yes, proposals that would effectively apply only to some member nations (rather than to all of them) can be legal as long as they don't actually state that nations can choose whether they apply.
In addition to toning-down the preamble, I'd suggest placing a clause at the beginning of the operative section which clarifies matters by saying that this resolution applies "wherever and whenever an election for public office is held in any member nation". This should make it clear enough that those member nations currently not holding elections wouldn't be forced to start doing so.
:Bear:
Quote: With this proposal there's also the problem where it can be considered optional by those without democracies, which could render it illegal. I would suggest putting in another operative clause that can be binding on any nation, regardless of whether or not elections are legal. Nothing comes to mind immediately to me, but have a think on it. Perhaps something like "MANDATES that no member state shall compel their citizens to pay for postage if it is mail being sent to an organ of the State" or something like that.[/quote]
My understanding, especially after chatting with some of the folks on the WA Discord server, is that it's perfectly fine to have a proposal that doesn't really apply to some nations. If we passed something that only required that all cars in member nations need to have seatbelts, we aren't going to be forcing every member nation to allow cars in their nation in order to comply. That's stupid.
Likewise, taking the current proposal at vote - Auralia's "Convention on Net Neutrality" - everything in that resolution pertains to nations in the Internet Era or later. Fantasy/Past Tech nations have nothing to do if that passes. There's no mention in it of anything other than Internet and Network communication. FT/PT nations aren't going to be forced to have computers and the internet in order to comply with it.
I'm sure Bears would be happy to weigh in on it too
Thanks for the critique, btw. It's really helpful.[/quote]Re that version of '2', Id' suggest changing "any citizen who would otherwise be allowed to vote" to "any citizen who would otherwise be eligible to vote".
Re the 'optionality' question: Yes, proposals that would effectively apply only to some member nations (rather than to all of them) can be legal as long as they don't actually state that nations can choose whether they apply.
In addition to toning-down the preamble, I'd suggest placing a clause at the beginning of the operative section which clarifies matters by saying that this resolution applies "wherever and whenever an election for public office is held in any member nation". This should make it clear enough that those member nations currently not holding elections wouldn't be forced to start doing so.
:Bear: