02-13-2010, 10:17 PM
Sidh OhnFeb 8 2010, 05:46 AM Bears ArmedJan 16 2010, 07:48 PMPerhaps leaving the precise details of your people's arrival buried in the depths of your mythology might be the wisest solution after all?
Re the limited nature of "pre-recent" contacts between your people & the rest of the IDU, if you arrived in the coastal "lobe" immediately to the east of my 'Northlands' then this could -- like the Northlands themselves -- have been basically sealed-off from its neighbours until very recently by one of the mystical barriers that seem to have been emplaced during the Wizards' War that took place during parts of the 1st century BC & 1st century AD... although of course that would be up to you.[/quote]
The Wizard War thing I'd really need to know more about. Maybe PM the basic info to me?
That said, and somewhat more back OT, my conception had the Ohn invading from the northwest, but given your concerns as well as my dislike for the whole space/time overlay of nations (not to mention my addition of Muircine), we could say that there is something akin to a space/time leak, that is much like another type of weather pattern only much more slow. Every so often (say every hundred years or so), there would be a sort of temporal storm somewhere in the world causing a sort of gateway between realities to open. In the Ohn's case then, they would have used one of these gates to flee the aforementioned catastrophy, and subsequently supplant the previously ruling nation.
I do still like the idea that there was a much larger ice shelf to the north that shattered at some point, leaving a smaller continent or shelf there now, as it makes the north and northern seas more interesting than just an empty ocean.
...and we're more than happy to deal with the Council of the North.
The Muircine in particular are well disposed to the northern Ursines (not many others, but there you go... 
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Again, back OT, off the Muircine coasts there are to particularly notable types of fish. the first is a type of Salmon that migrates through the area on there ways north to breed and so can be found at various times all along the region's coast. The second is a type of highly aggressive shark (possibly related to the Tiger Shark) that, since the founding of Sidh Ohn, have been referred to as Sea Wolves, largely because they seem to hunt in packs rather than as individuals. [/quote]
You can find some information about the 'Wizards' War' in this very section of the forum, just scroll down the list of topics until you see the 'Regional History' thread that I started and it gets discussed a bit there; the st of it I haven't actually typed-up yet...
I'm still thinking about the possibility that you suggested of there formerly having been a larger ice-sheet (& maybe a land-mass) between our northern isles and the Arctic [sub-(?)] continent. On my full map, which hasn't been copied across to the regional one yet, the Bears' "Northlands" do already include a peninsula & some islands that aren't on the regional map at all, but I need to sort out the urls for other people to use when accessing the site where my maps are stored: Fortunately I've got next week of from work, so I might be able to get this done then so that you'll be able to see these details... although my mother is in hospital (due to complications of Parkinson' Disease) in a town a few miles away and so of course I'll be spending some time during that break visiting her there rather than being here online.
As regards the 'temporal storm' idea, there's certainly precedent for something along those lines -- the main term used in the past was 'fractal reality' -- in these parts. For example, the former nation of Ceorana -- part of which, located to my south-west & your west, is now under Ursine protection -- actually had two completely separate histories (each involving colonisation from a different part of a RL-like Earth) that "somehow" merged. (That confusing back-story was actually one of the main reasons why its player let that nation die off...)
An active species of predatory shark in northern waters seems slightly unlikely to me, considering RL ecosystems, but if you want one in your nation's waters then obviously I can't stop you. I suspect that any of them who enter my nation's waters would get killed & eaten by the local Orcas, though...
Is this to be a (partially, like some RL types, or even wholely) 'warm-blooded' species of shark?
Oh, and I think that we have -- at least in my waters, with it obviously being your choice as to whether they extend into your waters as well -- at least one species of Sturgeon up there too.
Re the limited nature of "pre-recent" contacts between your people & the rest of the IDU, if you arrived in the coastal "lobe" immediately to the east of my 'Northlands' then this could -- like the Northlands themselves -- have been basically sealed-off from its neighbours until very recently by one of the mystical barriers that seem to have been emplaced during the Wizards' War that took place during parts of the 1st century BC & 1st century AD... although of course that would be up to you.[/quote]
The Wizard War thing I'd really need to know more about. Maybe PM the basic info to me?
That said, and somewhat more back OT, my conception had the Ohn invading from the northwest, but given your concerns as well as my dislike for the whole space/time overlay of nations (not to mention my addition of Muircine), we could say that there is something akin to a space/time leak, that is much like another type of weather pattern only much more slow. Every so often (say every hundred years or so), there would be a sort of temporal storm somewhere in the world causing a sort of gateway between realities to open. In the Ohn's case then, they would have used one of these gates to flee the aforementioned catastrophy, and subsequently supplant the previously ruling nation.
I do still like the idea that there was a much larger ice shelf to the north that shattered at some point, leaving a smaller continent or shelf there now, as it makes the north and northern seas more interesting than just an empty ocean.
...and we're more than happy to deal with the Council of the North.
The Muircine in particular are well disposed to the northern Ursines (not many others, but there you go... )Again, back OT, off the Muircine coasts there are to particularly notable types of fish. the first is a type of Salmon that migrates through the area on there ways north to breed and so can be found at various times all along the region's coast. The second is a type of highly aggressive shark (possibly related to the Tiger Shark) that, since the founding of Sidh Ohn, have been referred to as Sea Wolves, largely because they seem to hunt in packs rather than as individuals. [/quote]
You can find some information about the 'Wizards' War' in this very section of the forum, just scroll down the list of topics until you see the 'Regional History' thread that I started and it gets discussed a bit there; the st of it I haven't actually typed-up yet...
I'm still thinking about the possibility that you suggested of there formerly having been a larger ice-sheet (& maybe a land-mass) between our northern isles and the Arctic [sub-(?)] continent. On my full map, which hasn't been copied across to the regional one yet, the Bears' "Northlands" do already include a peninsula & some islands that aren't on the regional map at all, but I need to sort out the urls for other people to use when accessing the site where my maps are stored: Fortunately I've got next week of from work, so I might be able to get this done then so that you'll be able to see these details... although my mother is in hospital (due to complications of Parkinson' Disease) in a town a few miles away and so of course I'll be spending some time during that break visiting her there rather than being here online.
As regards the 'temporal storm' idea, there's certainly precedent for something along those lines -- the main term used in the past was 'fractal reality' -- in these parts. For example, the former nation of Ceorana -- part of which, located to my south-west & your west, is now under Ursine protection -- actually had two completely separate histories (each involving colonisation from a different part of a RL-like Earth) that "somehow" merged. (That confusing back-story was actually one of the main reasons why its player let that nation die off...)
An active species of predatory shark in northern waters seems slightly unlikely to me, considering RL ecosystems, but if you want one in your nation's waters then obviously I can't stop you. I suspect that any of them who enter my nation's waters would get killed & eaten by the local Orcas, though...
Is this to be a (partially, like some RL types, or even wholely) 'warm-blooded' species of shark?Oh, and I think that we have -- at least in my waters, with it obviously being your choice as to whether they extend into your waters as well -- at least one species of Sturgeon up there too.