06-26-2008, 06:47 PM
Gerainia, UN Delegate for the IDU, praises the proposal overall, but has hinted at a glitch, in which the only way of a neutral nation to not hinder a belligerent is to comply with a belligerent (Section 1b).
My suggestion is to remove the hindering but add the supporting so the suggestion for Section 1b is:
Quote: Actively, or covertly act to assist or support any military force or agents of an active Belligerent Nation, its military allies...[/quote]
Domnonia, IDU Cartographer says that section 3 (which reads "ALLOWS trade between Neutral and Belligerent Nations for peaceful purposes, so long as the items traded are not acquired through war.") contradicts with Section 1a and 1b.
It is being suggested in response, to clarify section 3, so that trade between the civilians of Neutral and Belligerent Nations for peaceful purposes is only allowed. I think neutral nations imposing trade sanctions against armies and warring governments have been known to mostly force them into peace. That comes under 1c. However, we can't block trade with innocent civilians who were just unfortunate to be caught up.
I've also removed the extra comma and the extra 'active', ending the unnecessarily enhancement now that "Belligerent Nation" is pinned down...
"a) Harbor, aid or provide for any Belligerent Nation, its forces, its military allies or militia, including but not limited to: Air Forces, Naval Forces or Territorial Forces, but see Section 4;"
...I also recognise the flaw in Section 1b where Neutral Nations cannot support any force, neutral or belligerent as it stands, so both sections now have to cover just the belligerent nation(s) concerned...
"b) Actively, or covertly act to assist or support any military force or agents of an active Belligerent Nation, its forces, its military allies or militia, through either force of arms or other means of supporting military action, and..."
A suggestion has come through by Amanda to probably tighten the definition of a belligerent's military force and its allies. Unfortunately the Jolt Forums are down so I cannot cross reference between the original copies for now. I appreciate your patience.
My suggestion is to remove the hindering but add the supporting so the suggestion for Section 1b is:
Quote: Actively, or covertly act to assist or support any military force or agents of an active Belligerent Nation, its military allies...[/quote]
Domnonia, IDU Cartographer says that section 3 (which reads "ALLOWS trade between Neutral and Belligerent Nations for peaceful purposes, so long as the items traded are not acquired through war.") contradicts with Section 1a and 1b.
It is being suggested in response, to clarify section 3, so that trade between the civilians of Neutral and Belligerent Nations for peaceful purposes is only allowed. I think neutral nations imposing trade sanctions against armies and warring governments have been known to mostly force them into peace. That comes under 1c. However, we can't block trade with innocent civilians who were just unfortunate to be caught up.
I've also removed the extra comma and the extra 'active', ending the unnecessarily enhancement now that "Belligerent Nation" is pinned down...
"a) Harbor, aid or provide for any Belligerent Nation, its forces, its military allies or militia, including but not limited to: Air Forces, Naval Forces or Territorial Forces, but see Section 4;"
...I also recognise the flaw in Section 1b where Neutral Nations cannot support any force, neutral or belligerent as it stands, so both sections now have to cover just the belligerent nation(s) concerned...
"b) Actively, or covertly act to assist or support any military force or agents of an active Belligerent Nation, its forces, its military allies or militia, through either force of arms or other means of supporting military action, and..."
A suggestion has come through by Amanda to probably tighten the definition of a belligerent's military force and its allies. Unfortunately the Jolt Forums are down so I cannot cross reference between the original copies for now. I appreciate your patience.