Elephants and related species
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Following the recent Poll:

Poll introduction
The Free Bears of Bears Armed wrote: Our regions distribution of lands & seas and consequent pattern of ocean currents means that its larger continent should probably have temperate forests extending further north, and both continents have less desert, than is the case for Earth-RLs continents and we probably didn’t have as much of an Ice Age, either. This means that we probably never had enough habitat for large herds of Mammoths, but we could have had Mastodons or even (in warm temperate or hotter climates) true Elephants, at least before humans also arrived here and started hunting them. If your nation is on a continent or a large island close to this, and not too mountainous, and bearing in mind how much room any surviving herds would need, do you think that it has or had_

Poll Results
Mastodons, now extinct?: Aertemedia, Anglia-Saxia, Comhar, Rosewald, Gonhog, Laeral, and North Cross.
Mastodons, surviving?: (nobody)
"true" Elephants, now extinct?: Lauchenoiria.
"true" Elephants, surviving?: (nobody)
Other (both types, Mammoths [in the "upper" north, or north-central plains], or some other type), as explained in RMB?: (nobody)
Whatever fits bearing in mind the neighbouring nations' choices?: Naboompu, Bears Armed, Gardavasque, Xiomera, Libertas Omnium Maximus, Trive 38, Zamastan, and Christos.
None of the above?: (nobody)

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The now-extinct Elephants in Lauchenoiria were probably the same species as Earth-RL Eurasia’s now-extinct ‘Straight-Tusked Elephant’ Paleoloxodon antiquus, which was more closely related to the surviving African Elephant than to the Asian Elephant & the Mammoths. Looking at the other responses given, this might also have ranged [through Conternia?] into the lowland parts of Libertas Omnium Maximus. Lauchenoiria could also have had — and, indeed, could still have — Gompotheres (specifically Notiomastodon, of the type originally labelled ‘lowland mastodon’) spreading into at least its eastern edge from [nation]Malabra[/nation].
The now-extinct Mastodons in some of the region’s more northerly lands (Anglia-Saxia, Gonhog, Laeral, Christos, and probably Bears Armed, at the least) were probably from the same species as Earth-RL’s ‘American Mastodon Mammut americanum, but might have developed into an endemic sub-species here. It would be helpful if we knew whether they also occurred in a continuous range across certain other lands in that part of the region (High Fells, Skoden, Kivasek, Legionas, any of the Schnauzerlands, Sanctaria, Sciongard...).
As for the southern continent, I still need [nation]Sanctaria[/nation]’s reply to a request for information that I posted in the Map Discussion Thread before I can make “informed” suggestions.
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#2

I'm not putting longitude and latitude on the map.
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#3

Sanctaria post_id=19746 time=1565981359 user_id=259 Wrote:I'm not putting longitude and latitude on the map.
So there's now no way of knowing whether nations near the southern edge of the southern continent are in the tropics, the southern temperate belt, the sub-antarctic, or even the antarctic itself ?!
I've already got two requests queued from players with nations on that landmass who want advice on their nations' likely ecosystems, one of whom says that you actually referred them to me for this, and it's impossible to answer those questions properly without at least some idea of the correct situation.

Also, you include a scale on at least one version of the map, but unless you're going to godmode that the region's world is now flat -- or, at the least, one face of a cube -- having a scale provided for a map covering such a wide area only works if latitudes are given and that scale is then defined as correct for a specific latitude. Without that information, the scale is useless and people will still NOT be able to determine accurately how large their nations are or how far apart particular places are.

Even if all you meant was that you're not going to provide a full grid showing coordinates, can you at least tell us what latitudes the map's northern & southern edges are supposed to be at?
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#4

Firstly, I never claimed the map was flat. I'm not putting longitude and latitude on the map.

I've said *repeatedly* that the map covers the entire planet, and I've said *repeatedly* that this may have to grow in the future depending on the amount of nations in the IDU and map space.

Any further discussion on the map can be directed to the appropriate thread. I'm not having this discussion across two different forums.
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