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FAILED: Repeal "Fair Sentencing Act" - Grosseschnauzer - 12-24-2006

Quote: Repeal "Fair Sentencing Act"

A proposal to repeal a previously passed resolution

Category: Repeal

Resolution: #180

Proposed by: Imperfectia

Description: UN Resolution #180: Fair Sentencing Act (Category: The Furtherment of Democracy; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: The United Nations,

AFFIRMING that due to different circumstances different criminals may warrant different sentences for the same crime and such each case should be judged individually, and;

COMMENDING UN#180 in its attempts to encourage member states to provide oversight to their judicial systems to examine trial and sentencing practices, however;

CONCERNED that the second article gives nations the license to use capital punishment too freely;

CONCERNED that individual states may use capital punishment for ANY offense they so choose including, but not limited to shoplifting, illegal drug possession, trespassing, and adultery;

BELIEVING that an internationally recognized standard practice regarding the use of capital punishment is in every member nation?s best interest in order to keep the peace;

HEREBY repeals UN #180, ?Fair Sentencing Act?

Voting Ends: Fri Dec 29 2006 [/quote]

FAILED: Repeal "Fair Sentencing Act" - Antrium - 12-24-2006

For right now, I'm against. I'm sort of on the fence here, but I know I was for the original resolution.

EDIT: After reading the rest of this, I'm leaning towards FOR.

FAILED: Repeal "Fair Sentencing Act" - Embolalia - 12-24-2006

FOR. I agree with the CONCERNEDs, especially.

FAILED: Repeal "Fair Sentencing Act" - boricuastan - 12-24-2006

FSA is a necessary buffer against unnecessary interference with nations' systems of justice, and is the most agreeable way to effect accountability in sentencing. And despite a moderator ruling to the contrary, I'm simply not convinced the fourth clause down is a valid argument.

Were my IDU puppet in the UN, I'd vote AGAINST.

FAILED: Repeal "Fair Sentencing Act" - Grosseschnauzer - 12-24-2006

What was the moderator ruling?

And doesn't the Fair Sentencing Act contain what has been called a "blocker" provision?

FAILED: Repeal "Fair Sentencing Act" - Quintessence of Dust - 12-24-2006

Quote: What was the moderator ruling?[/quote]
HotRodia: Legal
Frisbeeteria: I don't care

Quote: And doesn't the Fair Sentencing Act contain what has been called a "blocker" provision?[/quote]
Yes.

FAILED: Repeal "Fair Sentencing Act" - boricuastan - 12-24-2006

Fris ruled it legal; HotRod has no more authority over the legality of proposals than I do.

Yes, FSA is intended as a blocker against ban on the death penalty. Remove it and witness the feeding frenzy on the General Assembly floor between those who would ban the death penalty and those who would rather rot than see such a thing pass. Me? I'd much rather return to the bad old days of never-ending abortion flamefights. Rolleyes



FAILED: Repeal "Fair Sentencing Act" - Yeldan IDU Territory - 12-25-2006

KennyDec 24 2006, 03:49 PMthose who would rather rot than see such a thing pass. [/quote]
Wait.

Rot?

Rather rot than see a death penalty ban pass? Why? See, this is where I fail to follow the thought processes of pro DP advocates. Is it so crucial to have the "right" to kill prisoners that people would rather "rot" than be denied that "right"? Amazing.

Kenny, that's just weird. :lol:

Oh, FOR the repeal.

FAILED: Repeal "Fair Sentencing Act" - boricuastan - 12-25-2006

The AO forum makes references to "Fluffy demons," "the mouth of hell," "this abomination," "the Abyss from whence it was born," and "the Destruction Angel"; you say nothing. I happen to use the word "rot" on the IDU forum and you flip out. That's weird! Tongue

FAILED: Repeal "Fair Sentencing Act" - Yeldan IDU Territory - 12-25-2006

KennyDec 25 2006, 11:18 AMThe AO forum makes references to "Fluffy demons," "the mouth of hell," "this abomination," "the Abyss from whence it was born," and "the Destruction Angel"; you say nothing. I happen to use the word "rot" on the IDU forum and you flip out. That's weird! Tongue[/quote]
Those are poll options. And if you'll recall, I kicked you. Big Grin

FAILED: Repeal "Fair Sentencing Act" - Saidercray - 12-26-2006

FOR FOR FOR FOR FOR

FAILED: Repeal "Fair Sentencing Act" - Thalatash - 12-27-2006

FOR.

FAILED: Repeal "Fair Sentencing Act" - Mikitivity - 12-28-2006

Quintessence of DustDec 24 2006, 12:27 PM Quote: What was the moderator ruling?[/quote]
HotRodia: Legal
Frisbeeteria: I don't care

Quote: And doesn't the Fair Sentencing Act contain what has been called a "blocker" provision?[/quote]
Yes. [/quote]
:lol:
That sounds like the two of them.

I'm still torn on this one. I agree with the concerned part, but I also recall that I liked the original.

FAILED: Repeal "Fair Sentencing Act" - Stolidia - 12-28-2006

KennyDec 24 2006, 04:49 PM Fris ruled it legal; HotRod has no more authority over the legality of proposals than I do.

[/quote]
I'm confused. HotRodia is a Moderator. Why doesn't he have authority over legality of proposals?

FAILED: Repeal "Fair Sentencing Act" - boricuastan - 12-28-2006

Because he's a forum moderator, not a Game Mod.

FAILED: Repeal "Fair Sentencing Act" - Grosseschnauzer - 12-28-2006

I will be casting the region's vote late this evening EST (post-midnight GMT).

FAILED: Repeal "Fair Sentencing Act" - Grosseschnauzer - 12-29-2006

Quote: How should the Delegate cast the region's vote
FOR REPEAL  [ 4 ]  [100.00%]
AGAINST REPEAL  [ 0 ]  [0.00%]
ABSTAIN  [ 0 ]  [0.00%]
Total Votes: 4[/quote]

I willl cast the region's vote FOR the repeal.

FAILED: Repeal "Fair Sentencing Act" - Grosseschnauzer - 12-29-2006

Quote: he resolution "Repeal "Fair Sentencing Act"" was defeated 5,517 votes to 5,157.[/quote]

With the vote being that close, anf the lower than normal votes cast, I'll guess that the repeal will be attempted again.