Q: Protective Tariffs on Alcohol? -
Mikitivity - 04-15-2005
This survey is about roleplayed tariffs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariff
Quote: A tariff is a tax placed on imported and/or exported goods, sometimes called a customs duty. A revenue tariff is set with the intent of raising money for the government. A protective tariff, usually applied to imported goods, is intended to artificially inflate prices of imports and "protect" domestic industries from foreign competition (see also effective rate of protection). The distinction between protective and revenue tariffs is moot; revenue tariffs offer protection, and protective tariffs produce some revenue unless they are prohibitive in which case little or nothing is imported of that product, thus resulting in trivial or no revenue.[/quote]
Unlike a ?tax?, tariffs are usually enacted on foreign products. They are not uniform and many nations and industries consider them a barrier to ?free trade?.
Q: Does your government place protective tariffs on alcohol?
- It may not be imported into my nation.
- Tariffs are used to protect domestic alcohol sales.
- Tariffs are levied in response to other nations? alcohol tariffs.
- Tariffs are levied in response to other nations? general tariffs.
- My government does not place tariffs on alcohol imports.
The purpose of this survey is to get some hard data on the degree to which alcohol imports are subjected to protective tariffs in individual nations in NationStates. I eventually plan to introduce a series of United Nations Free Trade agreements, but before I begin to write these proposals, I need to get a feel for the current level of domestic and international regulations concerning various commodities. (If your nation is wanting a boost in Economic Freedoms, please help me by asking your allies to answer this survey.)
Thank you!
Q: Protective Tariffs on Alcohol? -
Mikitivity - 04-15-2005
Hi everybody, the above is a NationStates poll that I'm running for a resolution I plan to work on come June (I'll be in Europe in May). After answering the above survey, please consider also responding (same answers) to my NationStates poll as well.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=412456
More data will enhance the arguements for or against my resolution. There is no "right" or "wrong" answer.

I'd like the resolution to be drafted in order to benefit as many of us as possible, so the surveys will serve as a guide.
Danke!
Q: Protective Tariffs on Alcohol? -
Grosseschnauzer - 04-15-2005
Grosseschnauzer imposes a sales tax, so there is no benefit to imposing a tariff on alcohol products imported into the country. Purchasers may choose domestic or imported products according to their individual preferences, and the tax burden would be identical. The government has no preference as to a purchaser's choice, since the tax collected is the same.
Edited to add: This tax policy applies to all five schnauzervolk nations under our Treaty of Mutuality, which is why under the IDUFTA, its provisions had to be extended to all five nations including the ones still in The North Pacific and the Union of Schnauzer Dominions.
Ah, the complexities of free trade across national and regional borders is so wonderful!
Q: Protective Tariffs on Alcohol? -
Malabra - 04-16-2005
Alcohol is absolutly and strictly forbidden in Malabra, and thus Malabra's ports. we believe alcohol does
no good, so why let the people take it? It can only do much harm to our population's health, not to mention drunk driving accidents killing even more people.
Just adding our two cents to the poll, even though the above probably doesn't matter in the sense of the poll. Just thought I'd explain my choice on it.
--Prime Minister of Malabra
Q: Protective Tariffs on Alcohol? -
Groot Gouda - 04-16-2005
The PRoGG uses tax, not tariffs, to reduce alcohol-related problems. All goods that according to the Ministry of The People's Health form a danger for citizen's health are taxed, money which is used to improve healthcare, support health campaigns and improve sporting facilities. The main goods that are taxed this way are fastfood, drugs (including alcohol and nicotine), and sweets.
Q: Protective Tariffs on Alcohol? -
Groot Gouda - 04-16-2005
Oh, and of course using alcohol import tariffs is Frowned Upon by the IDUFTA...
Q: Protective Tariffs on Alcohol? -
Pestesia - 04-24-2005
IMO tariffs are necessary to protect domestic production.
There was a case about that last year in the US, it was about steel imports. I think cheap imports and outsourcing are a bit too discouraging for the internal economy...
Of course, overprotection is worse than no protection at all.
Q: Protective Tariffs on Alcohol? -
Keeslandia - 04-24-2005
We're free traders in Keeslandia - no tariff.
Q: Protective Tariffs on Alcohol? -
Mikitivity - 04-24-2005
PestesiaApr 24 2005, 09:40 AM IMO tariffs are necessary to protect domestic production.
There was a case about that last year in the US, it was about steel imports. I think cheap imports and outsourcing are a bit too discouraging for the internal economy...
Of course, overprotection is worse than no protection at all. [/quote]
Actually I do remember reading about that story on the front page of the newspapers last year.
Q: Protective Tariffs on Alcohol? -
Groot Gouda - 04-25-2005
I read that too, mostly with comments about the USA (and the EU) forcing free trade through the throats of developing countries, while they themselves keep their markets shut...
Personally, I'd rather go for free trade. The national businesses will either have to increase their competetiveness, or move. As a government, we try to create new opportunities and support the demands of the labour market for (for example) more knowledge-intensive industry instead of manpower-intensive.
The only excuse for USA's steel policy or the EU's agricultural policy is greed and egoism. I prefer to look beyond national borders.
Q: Protective Tariffs on Alcohol? -
Pestesia - 04-25-2005
Don't misunderstand me -- I am completely against nationalism and national borders, but you have to undestand that some national businesses (e.g. in my country) can in no way compete with big multinationals, even if they work their asses off. The amount of money businesses have at their disposal is essential for their success (unfortunately).
This is why it is better for the workers to have tariffs IMO, because that trade is free does not mean it is fair, you know.
So, if you can buy cheaper imported goods in your country, e.g. made in some poor asian country, domestic industry simply cannot compete. It is not a matter of nationalism, though.
Q: Protective Tariffs on Alcohol? -
Groot Gouda - 04-25-2005
PestesiaApr 25 2005, 02:55 PM you have to undestand that some national businesses (e.g. in my country) can in no way compete with big multinationals, even if they work their asses off. [/quote]
But why not choose to do something else? For (RL) example, it is pointless to have much labour-intensive industry in Western Europe. The same thing can be produced for basically the same quality much cheaper elsewhere. So you don't fund that as a government, but you try to focus on other things. Knowledge-intensive industry, luxury goods, that kind of employment. Either specialize into a different area, or do something else in the same sector.
Funding your own industry only makes sense when you're trying to start something up. An existing industry which is deminishing due to global economic shifts shouldn't be supported by tariffs. You're creating a very unhealthy environment where the quality of the product is not related to the price people have to pay for it. You're making stuff more expensive for your people.
It could even be worse. The EU agricultural policy means that food is more expensive here because of tariffs,
and we produce too much. What we have left over (beef, for example) is dumped on African markets for next to nothing. "Ah, cheap food for the starving Africans" is what one'd think, but in fact it ruins the local food producers and makes the people dependent on our leftovers.
Groot Gouda is productive by policy which is focused on quality, rather than quantity. Good working conditions, minimum wage, all those mean we have happy, productive workers. Education is a priority for our services sector. That's how we "protect" our economy. Invest in the long term.
Q: Protective Tariffs on Alcohol? -
Pestesia - 04-25-2005
I understand that, but I was not talking only about developed countries.
Since Pestesia is pretty young, I'm not sure what standing I start with...
So if I assume that Pestesia is currently underdeveloped, I *need* the tariffs, or my only other choice is to insource...
In addtition, I have given education a high priority, but as you said this is pretty much long term investment.
Q: Protective Tariffs on Alcohol? -
Mikitivity - 04-25-2005
You both have hit on another daily issue I'd like to propose we consider creating ... there currently is an issue in the game that allows you to decide the focus of your military: navy, air force, army, space corps, etc.
I'd like to suggest that there is a trade off when building our economies. My government can forgo food production if it dominates another industry (hopefully one that is sustainable). I was thinking we could make that issue on some of the soft industries and hard industries to allow nations to ratchet up or down their strengths and weaknesses as they see fit. Specialize or no?
Q: Protective Tariffs on Alcohol? -
Pestesia - 04-26-2005
Sounds good, but I just want to stress on your comment that these industries *have* to be sustainable, e.g. noone can solely rely on tourism.
I think this kind of cooperation has to start relatively small.
How do you see all this happening?
Q: Protective Tariffs on Alcohol? -
Lloegr-Cymru - 05-17-2005
The Holy Republic is attempting to increase fundamental civil rights, which also necessarily means allowing people to choose things harmful to themselves. Ergo, we do not impose a tariff on any import.
Q: Protective Tariffs on Alcohol? -
Yuunli - 05-17-2005
Alcohol and other drugs may not be imported into the Republic of Yuunli.
Kylie Benjamins (Safe Life Lobby)
Councilor for Health
The Republic of Yuunli
Q: Protective Tariffs on Alcohol? -
Mikitivity - 02-16-2006
Somebody must have bumped this with a vote.
Q: Protective Tariffs on Alcohol? -
Eisophca - 02-17-2006
I voted
after it was bumped. Please don't hurt me. :cold:
Q: Protective Tariffs on Alcohol? -
Mikitivity - 02-17-2006
CeoranaFeb 16 2006, 03:43 PM I voted
after it was bumped. Please don't hurt me. :cold: [/quote]
:hysterical:
Oh, if the alcohol proposal ever reaches quorum (which it hasn't in three tries spread out over 1.25 years), then this poll will be relevant.
Q: Protective Tariffs on Alcohol? -
Antrium - 02-17-2006
CeoranaFeb 16 2006, 05:43 PM I voted
after it was bumped. Please don't hurt me. :cold: [/quote]
I did too :cold:
Q: Protective Tariffs on Alcohol? -
Lawtonia - 02-18-2006
Lawtonia upholds the principles of Free Trade and does not impose tariffs on imports or provide subsidies to Lawtonian exporters.
Q: Protective Tariffs on Alcohol? -
Sausage Arabia - 02-18-2006
Hamsterdammer alcohol industries are, at best, 'burgeoning', and we would not be able to survive if we fully opened ourselves up to the global market. As such, import taxes are levied on imported alcohol products. However, we negotiate specific free trade agreements to reduce or abolish tariffs.
Q: Protective Tariffs on Alcohol? -
Jonquiere-Tadoussac - 02-20-2006
Eh, since this was bumped...
The citizens of J-T enjoy many forms of alcohol imported from around the world. Baranxtuan liquors are especially enjoyed. None of this, however, overly hurts the local industries, which focus mostly on beers. J-T's citizens are very patriotic with their beer choices, so tariffs would be completely pointless.