Two Proposal Ideas -
Antrium - 10-24-2005
I don't know why, but today I decided to write another proposal...so here are my ideas so far:
Prevention of H5N1 Epidemic
I'm sure most of you have heard about the H5N1 avian flu that is currently in Vietnam and other southeast Asian countries. Some ideas I came up with are:
-The creation of a UN Health Organization that would have the power to quarantine an area if there was a threat of spreading the flu
-Encouraging donations of Oseltamivir (the drug that is thought to prevent H5N1) to countries that are affected but cannot afford it
-Checking poultry for the flu regularly
If you think this would make a good proposal, I will do some more research and write a draft for it. If not, I came up with a back up plan
Ban Chemical Weapons replacement
There has not been a replacement for Ban Chemical Weapons since it was repealed. Basically, all that would have to be done is to re-word the same points the original covered, and add that pepper spray, insecticide, and others would be excluded.
Tell me if you have suggestions, comments, ideas, etc., or have an opinion on which one to write. (I dont want to write both, the one I don't use can be written by someone else.)
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Grosseschnauzer - 10-25-2005
Some really quick points (for now):
On the first idea, I would take a look at previously adopted UN resolutions, especially some of those that were IDU sponsored, such as the IRCO, the Tsunami Warning System and the Natural Disaster resolutions. I think if carefully crafted, you could come up with something that would build upon (or even adapt) some of the provisions and entities included in those resolutions and other, and that will make the proposal a stronger "sell" in the Jolt forum.
On the second idea, as I recall the objections that were raised that supported repeal was that non-military uses of chemical weapons seemed to be covered in the repealed resolution. So the focus here would be to fashion language that banned the military or ciminal use of chemical weapons, but permitted their use in law enforcement (or the self-defense of individuals from criminal attack.)
While you're mentioning ideas, I will mention that I'm trying to open up some time to focus on finally putting together the third resolution to complete the trilogy that started with the Tsunami Warning System and Natural Diaster resolutions. This one would focus on the standardization of durable public buildings for use as protection, shelter, etc., in the event of natural disasters, and recommended appropriate building standards to protect other public and all private buildings. In view of the recent spate ofreal life diasters (several category five hurricanes, flooding, major earthquakes, as well as the tsunami last December) such a proposal would probably be more successful now than it would have had it been developed back at the beginning of the year.
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Groot Gouda - 10-25-2005
AntriumOct 24 2005, 11:31 PM Prevention of H5N1 Epidemic [/quote]
Nooo!!! Argh! Rant alert! O_O
I get absolutely pissed of by this whole bird flu hype. First of all, there is no immediate danger for humans. It'll take a while before that virus will be able to go from human to human. And even from animal to human is rare - only 50 or so cases in a heavy populated area such as southeast Asia.
Secondly, even if the virus mutates to a human-human form, we don't even know whether it'll be dangerous. It might well be less dangerous than a normal flu.
Thirdly, this is nationstates, not real life.
So, in other words, don't write a resolution on this issue. Period. I'll campaign against it if I must. All this flu stuff is just scaremongering, just like SARS was, just like Saddam's WoMD, just like so many things these days. Get over it, life'll go on.
:angry:
Two Proposal Ideas -
Antrium - 10-25-2005
Groot GoudaOct 25 2005, 04:37 AM AntriumOct 24 2005, 11:31 PM Prevention of H5N1 Epidemic [/quote]
Nooo!!! Argh! Rant alert! O_O
I get absolutely pissed of by this whole bird flu hype. First of all, there is no immediate danger for humans. It'll take a while before that virus will be able to go from human to human. And even from animal to human is rare - only 50 or so cases in a heavy populated area such as southeast Asia.
Secondly, even if the virus mutates to a human-human form, we don't even know whether it'll be dangerous. It might well be less dangerous than a normal flu.
Thirdly, this is nationstates, not real life.
So, in other words, don't write a resolution on this issue. Period. I'll campaign against it if I must. All this flu stuff is just scaremongering, just like SARS was, just like Saddam's WoMD, just like so many things these days. Get over it, life'll go on.
:angry: [/quote]
OK, second idea it is then
I'll write up a draft when I have time...maybe later this week?
Two Proposal Ideas -
Antrium - 11-05-2005
OK, the first draft was terrible, so here's the second draft:
Quote: Ban Chemical Weapons Replacement
AWARE of the mass destruction capabilities of chemical weapons, and
ALSO AWARE of the benefits of peaceful chemical weapons, such as mace, pepper spray, and tear gas,
NOTING that UN Resolution #120, Ban Chemical Weapons, was repealed for its lack of differentiation between peaceful and war-time chemical weapons,
BANS production, trafficking, or use of ?chemical weapons? in all UN member nations, and
STRONGLY RECOMMENDS the decommissioning of existing ?chemical weapons.?
DEFINES ?chemical weapons? as ?Toxic chemicals and their precursors, munitions and devices, specifically designed to cause death or other harm to humans, and equipment specifically designed for use directly in connection with the employment of those munitions and devices.?
EXPRESSES hope of a safer world without these harmful weapons.[/quote]
I think that with that definition of "chemical weapons", tear gas, pepper spray, and mace should be allowed, but that may need to be cleared up some more.
Suggestions/comments/criticisms/ideas/etc. would be greatly appreciated
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Lawtonia - 11-06-2005
I think the bird flu idea is a good one - but in a general sense, not aimed specifically at bird flu. And for those of you who say "Rant Alert" - may I remind you that some of us actually live in areas of the world where some of our nearest neighbours have people dying of this disease and given the general level of health services in these countries it is more likely that human to human transmission will develop.
With the rate that people travel from country to country these days, an epidemic could be much worse. In Australia where I live we have 9 international airports - a third of these are in my home state where inbound flights are primarily from south-east and east asia where this disease is a major concern. Although I do not agree with the panic that is gripping the world over this issue it is worrying to those of us who live near it.
*** INSERT BY SOBER THOUGHT: You're telling me! I live in Toronto, the SARS capital of North America, where the shortsighted provincial government had just finished laying off all their virologists in a cost cutting measure and the cashstrapped city government was cutting back on their public health nurses. ***
Maybe a resolution aimed Epidemics in general with preventative provisions as well as provisions for how we can coordinate efforts internationally if one does break out. Not every disease we think we've wiped out is gone, some have been making a reappearance in some "First world" countries amoungst the poor. I like the idea of certain drug patents being suspended during an epidemic so poorer countries will be able to produce their own generic drug rather than relying on the wealthier nations.
The formation of an international body to oversee the coordination of these things would be a great idea. It needs to function without interference from national governments. On this side of the world a few years ago we had huge dramas because the Chinese government was hiding all of its facts and figures about SARS, fortunately they came clean on the issue and an epidemic was prevented. An international body to collect data about diseases and to coordinate prevention and/or treatment of epidemics is a great idea.
Dont think just because you live in the US or Western Europe that these things are a load of bullshit and wont effect you. Some of us actually live near poor countries and have seen what happens even when something as simple as the common cold gets out of control in these countries. In Australia, we help out our neighbours as much as we can because we are fairly well off but every country needs to realise this is a problem. It is possible that such a resolution may also raise awareness of such issues in real life.
Sorry for raving on and I applaud Antrium for their fantastic ideas to make this virtual world a great place in which to live. :wave:
PS Ban Chemical weapons is good too!!!! :worship:
Two Proposal Ideas -
Antrium - 11-06-2005
You should write the proposal. I think you would be able to write a better Epidemic proposal than I could, and I think that you could defend it better in the forums (especially after reading that

)
Plus I can't write two right now, finals are next week and then the new trimester starts, so I won't have time for two proposals. I may not even have time for one.
All it takes is some writing and a little campaigning (which I could help with a little if you need it

) Just think about it.
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Antrium - 11-11-2005
I know that everyone has been busy with elections, but now that they are over, if anyone has comments then please post them. I want to submit this the first time next Tuesday or so, so it would be great to get some suggestions by then. I don't intend to campaign the first time, just see how many delegates approve it, like I did for Labeling Standards.
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Grosseschnauzer - 11-11-2005
I do agree that the one should focus generally on pandemics, or epidemics, and not on the potential avian flu pandemic specifically.
The tsunami resolution, as am example, never mentioned the South Asian tsunami which insipred it, but dealt generally with the risk tsunamis presented. The same approach would work well here, I believe.
Two Proposal Ideas -
Antrium - 11-14-2005
I agree. And I still think Lawtonia should write it
Any suggestions on my Chemical Weapons draft before I submit it on Tuesday?
Two Proposal Ideas -
Grosseschnauzer - 11-14-2005
I think this draft on the chemical weapons topic still has problems.
Pesticides are toxic. One could argue they are banned because they might be used in wartime as a defoiliant (as Agent Orange was in the Vietnam conflict.)
Somehow, a distinction needs to be included that distinguishes between appropriate uses for industrial, agricultural, commercial, personal or household/consumer, or law enforcement use, and other uses including military uses. Since many toxic chemicals have both legitimate and aggressive uses, somehow the nature of the use of the toxic chemical has to be incorporated into the proposal.
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Antrium - 11-14-2005
Quote: Ban Chemical Weapons Replacement
AWARE of the mass destruction capabilities of chemical weapons, and
ALSO AWARE of the benefits of peaceful chemical weapons, such as mace, pepper spray, and tear gas,
NOTING that UN Resolution #120, Ban Chemical Weapons, was repealed for its lack of differentiation between peaceful and war-time chemical weapons,
BANS production, trafficking, or use of ?chemical weapons? in all UN member nations, and
STRONGLY RECOMMENDS the decommissioning of existing ?chemical weapons.?
DEFINES ?chemical weapons? as ?Toxic chemicals and their precursors, munitions and devices, specifically designed to cause death or other harm to humans, and equipment specifically designed for use directly in connection with the employment of those munitions and devices.?
ALLOWS use of chemicals for industrial, commercial, personal, consumer, or law enforcement use, or any non-military use.
EXPRESSES hope of a safer world without these harmful weapons.[/quote]
How about basically adding what you just said into the proposal? I knew that there might be problems with that, but I don't know how to approach it.
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Groot Gouda - 11-14-2005
Ban Chemical Weapons Replacement
AWARE of the mass destruction capabilities of chemical weapons, and
ALSO AWARE of the benefits of peaceful chemical weapons, such as mace, pepper spray, and tear gas,
NOTING that UN Resolution #120, Ban Chemical Weapons, was repealed for its lack of differentiation between peaceful and war-time chemical weapons,
CONVINCED the possession or use of chemical weapons by any UN or Non UN member nation presents an unacceptable risk to the safety of all nations and are unnecessary to national defense,
1. BANS production, trafficking, or use of ?chemical weapons? in all UN member nations, and
2. STRONGLY RECOMMENDS the decommissioning of existing ?chemical weapons.?
3. DEFINES ?chemical weapons? as ?Toxic chemicals and their precursors, munitions and devices, specifically designed to cause death or other harm to humans, and equipment specifically designed for use directly in connection with the employment of those munitions and devices.?
4.
ALLOWS use of chemicals for industrial, commercial, personal, consumer, or law enforcement use, any non-military use or for research into defense against chemical weapons.
5. EXPRESSES hope of a safer world without these harmful weapons.
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Antrium - 11-15-2005
Added. Thank you Groot Gouda

I will submit this version tomorrow if I have time. (No school tomorrow...yay)
Quote: Ban Chemical Weapons Replacement
AWARE of the mass destruction capabilities of chemical weapons, and
ALSO AWARE of the benefits of peaceful chemical weapons, such as mace, pepper spray, and tear gas,
NOTING that UN Resolution #120, Ban Chemical Weapons, was repealed for its lack of differentiation between peaceful and war-time chemical weapons,
CONVINCED the possession or use of chemical weapons by any UN or non-UN member nation presents an unacceptable risk to the safety of all nations and are unnecessary to national defense,
1. BANS production, trafficking, or use of ?chemical weapons? in all UN member nations, and
2. STRONGLY RECOMMENDS the decommissioning of existing ?chemical weapons.?
3. DEFINES ?chemical weapons? as ?Toxic chemicals and their precursors, munitions and devices, specifically designed to cause death or other harm to humans, and equipment specifically designed for use directly in connection with the employment of those munitions and devices.?
4. ALLOWS use of chemicals for industrial, commercial, personal, consumer, or law enforcement use, any non-military use, or for research into defense against chemical weapons.
5. EXPRESSES hope of a safer world without these harmful weapons. [/quote]
Submitted. Had to call it "BCW Replacement" since "Ban Chemical Weapons Replacement" did not fit.
Two Proposal Ideas -
Antrium - 11-23-2005
OK, so after the first try, I didn't get a lot of support. I think the name might have had something to do with it. And I need to campaign next time, obviously
Ban Chemical Weapons Replacement doesn't fit, so what would you suggest calling it?
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Groot Gouda - 11-23-2005
Chemical Weapons abolition?
Two Proposal Ideas -
Antrium - 11-23-2005
Groot GoudaNov 23 2005, 03:52 AM Chemical Weapons abolition? [/quote]
That'll work. Thanks
I'll probably submit it this weekend, after American Thanksgiving is over.